Securing Oxy/Act Bottles

   / Securing Oxy/Act Bottles #21  
No, you can't hang them .... shooting them is OK though but as a Dallas cop once told me, "If you shoot 'em, shoot 'em dead". He told me that you didn't want to give them a chance to sue.

Maybe Bird can explain Texas law on breaking and entering.

I hope you come up with a suitable answer to your problem. You know that the annoying thing most of the time is the amount of damage they do to steal a few dollars.
 
   / Securing Oxy/Act Bottles #22  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Maybe Bird can explain Texas law on breaking and entering )</font>

I wouldn't even try in the space here. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif But you can go to the Texas Penal Code and read all about it. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Prior to January 1, 1974, burglars (and even thieves at night) were fair game. It was justifiable homicide to shoot a burglar as long as he was in the building he burglarized or within gunshot of that building. But our Penal Code was completely rewritten by the 1973 legislature, so ain't the case anymore.

Now it's more complicated:

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( § 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is
justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or
tangible, movable property:
(1) if he would be justified in using force against the
other under Section 9.41; and
(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the
deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of
arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the
nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or
(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing
immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated
robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the
property; and
(3) he reasonably believes that:
(A) the land or property cannot be protected or
recovered by any other means; or
(B) the use of force other than deadly force to
protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or
another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury. )</font>
 
   / Securing Oxy/Act Bottles #23  
If you search the net there are a number of low voltage security options you could try. You could even go so far as to install a motion sensing video camera and take a picture of the perps in action.
 
   / Securing Oxy/Act Bottles #24  
Lots of good replys so far...

I like a good sign:
"Trespassers found on property will NEVER be found again!"
/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

as far as locking the tanks and tools a good and bad thing is the tanks are there to cut appart just about anything you put together... use STAINLESS STEEL of several pieces so that they have to be cut using a grinder/chop saw not the torch.

drop down hinge type bars over the tank neck, with the bottom and a middle strap should hold them securly. how to hold them stationary in shop is a different story. good chain with lock behind tanks maybe...

Mark M /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
   / Securing Oxy/Act Bottles #25  
I remember an episode of Everybody Loves Raymond where the older brother Robert was selling security systems. He gave Raymond the sales pitch saying that when criminals saw the sign that a property was protected by So and So security systems they avoided that property. Raymond asked what it would cost for just the signs......................
 

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