Septic System Questions (long)

[Egon]

Bird:

Betcha you know what was implied you do and didn't do and why you had to make three trips.

Egon

 

[Bird]

Daryl, my picture would look a lot better if it included a cab model 5030. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[dmccarty]

Bird,

The funny thing, well I thought it was funny, about the NC septic
regs is that they had requirements for Outhouses. How large
they had to be, the type of floor,(marine grade plywood), etc. I
do know there are alot of outhouses still in use in NC so I guess
the regs make sense. But they sure shocked me....

The inspector I delt with was fired by the county. Then hired
by the town. He then left their employment. From my
time with him I think he was incompetent and crooked. I
have heard some interesting things from govenment
employees about him as well. But his family has been around
the county for a long time so just better leave well enough
alone. You don't know when you will run into a relative....

And it does matter who you know. There are two lots in
my subdivision that had not one but two different soil scientists
survey the property for perc. There ain't any so they say. The
county now has a really good guy from what I can see. He is a
real soil scientist with the credentials. He approved a perc site
on one of these lots. The installer came in and said we should
put the field over there. So they did and it was approved.
Now what is up with that?

I don't want to know. I'm glad I live uphill and upstream.

I had one installer come out and give me a price on a LPP
system for one lot. He qouted 16-17,000 dollars. Bovine Scat
said I. I ain't paying 17K for something I can do myself. I
could afford to mess it up 4 or 5 times, redo it and still come
out ahead. An engineer is designing the thing all I have to do
is follow instructions....

Move ahead 5 years and we decided to build on a different
spot. Should be a conventional system with a little bit extra.
The build is saying 3-4K. Same installer. The only real
differences in the two systems is a pump and another tank.
Well, and the installer is dealing with the builder and not a
plain jane citizen.....

Later,
Dan

 

[5030]

Dan:

Lots of similarities to my previous post about the good 'ole boy syndrome.

 

[dmccarty]

5030,

Yep, very similar stories. I started to answer you but then
remembered that Bird had replied to me first so I killed two birds with one stone. So to speak. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif And Bird is so visible
with his orange garb..... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Now I like the new guy we have in the county. But I sure don't
understand how they could move the field they way they did.
Since its not my land its not my business and the field they use
could be good. Its just it was not found by two other soil
scientists....

Later,
Dan

 

[5030]

Dan:

I think Bird should go from "Bird" to the "Orange Crusader" /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Or: "Mr. Popsickle" /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[NoTrespassing]

Our soil here won't "perk". Rather than haul in enough new soil, we put in a Jet system. I think the total installed was under $4K. The neighbors have the same system.

This link is to a similar system
http://vanity.qwestdex.com/boulderelectricmotor/Page4.html

 

[riptides]

How do they work? How can they NOT have sludge build-up?
Do they still drain?

-Mike Z. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[NoTrespassing]

http://www.epa.gov/region1/assistance/ceitts/wastewater/techs/jetaerobic.html

Here's a EPA page that explains the jet system. Ours just dumps out into a ravine and ends up being soaked into the ground or evaporating. Ours is actually a 1000 gal. I believe.

"The JET series 1500 treatment system has been rigorously tested by the National Sanitation Foundation. The system achieves NSF 40 Class 1 effluent quality, i.e., an effluent quality consistently better than 30 mg/L BOD and 30 mg/L TSS. In Massachusetts, the JET system is approved for use to repair failed or failing septic systems. The remedial use permit allows certain reductions of Title 5 leaching area requirements. JET is particularly well suited for use where small lots, high groundwater, and/or poor soils are encountered. The JET system is currently undergoing pilot testing and achieves some nitrogen and phosphorus removal."

"JET treatment utilizes a motor driven aspirator shaft that thoroughly mixes and disperses fine air bubbles into the aerobic chamber of the treatment tank. This is an activated sludge system, which uses both suspended and fixed growth bacteria to achieve secondary biological treatment. The aeration chamber capacity of 650 gallons allows a detention time of more than 30 hours at design flow of 500 gallons per day."

Kevin

 

[5030]

Kevin:

I read the specifications on the EPA sheet in the link you provided. One consideration is stated that the JET system is not suitable for areas that flood, and the poster has an area that is prone to flooding.