Single Lid CUT Wicked Grapple..If your compact tractor could talk....

[Slickheadhunter]

I would definitely do it myself, just need to find out the best way to do it and what I would need.ill wait to see there new root grapple, when the time comes I will call EA and talk to them.

 

[IslandTractor]

I don't believe I do, it's my first tractor and to be honest with you I'm not even sure what your referring to. Do you mean a box where the hydraulic lines hook into like the one controlling the loader? There's definitely not another like that on the tractor. This is going to be expensive isn't it! Lol

Doesn't have to be very expensive to install a set of remotes or for that matter a diverter valve. Depends a lot on what you can do yourself. Installing a set of rear remotes is not technically difficult at all and takes about an afternoon. It does typically involve removing a few parts or wheel to get access. Parts for the rear remote can be bought from the dealer and they could give you an idea how long it takes them (multiply by 3). It is a bit more than just changing a spark plug but it isn't highly skilled either. I suspect a decent dealer tech can do it in an hour but they have the advantage of a lift. Kits to install a diverter valve are also available (WRLong sells a good one) but those start at about $600+ or so whereas a rear remote kit should be available for about $300-350. The rear remote has many uses, the diverter valve just controls the grapple but allows you to do so without taking your hand off the joystick. I've used both. I actually prefer the rear remote which is as easy (and similar) to controlling a 4 on the floor transmission. The diverter valve is operated just with a button on the joystick.

 

[Slickheadhunter]

Would the diverter valve take the place of the valve and joystick,or would it be a separate stick altogether?

 

[IslandTractor]

Would the diverter valve take the place of the valve and joystick,or would it be a separate stick altogether?

The dump/curl ports on the standard valve are routed to the diverter valve which is electrically controlled to send flow either to the original functions or to the additional grapple open/close cylinder. Two lines from the standard valve go into the diverter and four lines come out. Hook up is pretty straightforward. Just need to figure out where to mount the valve (mine is on the FEL arm) and how to route the lines. Kinda similar to how a bath/shower valve allows you to use the same temperature controller to operate both the bath and shower.

Rear remotes are a bit simpler as you just run two flexible hydraulic lines directly from the grapple back to the remotes (typically along the FEL arm then under the operator station, over the rear axle to the remote ports. Takes about fifteen minutes to install with zipties or longer if you want to use fancier clips. You control the grapple then with the rear remote control stick which is almost always just on the right hand side of the operator's seat. If your tractor doesn't have rear remotes installed there will still be a slot for the controller to be mounted in that position.

 

[Slickheadhunter]

The dump/curl ports on the standard valve are routed to the diverter valve which is electrically controlled to send flow either to the original functions or to the additional grapple open/close cylinder. Two lines from the standard valve go into the diverter and four lines come out. Hook up is pretty straightforward. Just need to figure out where to mount the valve (mine is on the FEL arm) and how to route the lines. Kinda similar to how a bath/shower valve allows you to use the same temperature controller to operate both the bath and shower.

Rear remotes are a bit simpler as you just run two flexible hydraulic lines directly from the grapple back to the remotes (typically along the FEL arm then under the operator station, over the rear axle to the remote ports. Takes about fifteen minutes to install with zipties or longer if you want to use fancier clips. You control the grapple then with the rear remote control stick which is almost always just on the right hand side of the operator's seat. If your tractor doesn't have rear remotes installed there will still be a slot for the controller to be mounted in that position.

Thanks for the info,very informative. This would save me from manually lifting all the wood into my trailer and manually moving brush! A huge back saver to say the least!

 

[EverythingAttachments]

Here are some pics of the single lid wicked grapple ordered by TBN member bandaidmd. Peanut was in the process of installing the cylinder and hoses.
Thanks for the business, Larry! It will be a great addition to your B Series Kubota.

 

[Burtonbr]

:drool::drool:
Very Envious !!

 

[johnnyvol]

Here's a pic of mine right after I got it on my L4060. I'll post my experience with it so far once I have a little more time with it.

 

[k0ua]

Doesn't have to be very expensive to install a set of remotes or for that matter a diverter valve. Depends a lot on what you can do yourself. Installing a set of rear remotes is not technically difficult at all and takes about an afternoon. It does typically involve removing a few parts or wheel to get access. Parts for the rear remote can be bought from the dealer and they could give you an idea how long it takes them (multiply by 3). It is a bit more than just changing a spark plug but it isn't highly skilled either. I suspect a decent dealer tech can do it in an hour but they have the advantage of a lift. Kits to install a diverter valve are also available (WRLong sells a good one) but those start at about $600+ or so whereas a rear remote kit should be available for about $300-350. The rear remote has many uses, the diverter valve just controls the grapple but allows you to do so without taking your hand off the joystick. I've used both. I actually prefer the rear remote which is as easy (and similar) to controlling a 4 on the floor transmission. The diverter valve is operated just with a button on the joystick.

Island, you and I have bumped heads on some things in the past.. but I will give you this.. You know what you are talking about when it comes to grapples and even how to control them for that matter.. I have just started using my wicked grapple single lid, and so far I think it is about perfect for my size of tractor and what i want to do. And I find using the rear remote stick convenient. At least where Kioti put it, Some other place might be a pain, but it is awfully convenient just below the joystick. This thing is fun to work with.

James K0UA

 

[chopped]

I saw that It seemed like it a few times when i watched the video.It is a good attachment. no doubt. But I could never run mine that high a RMP To me it seemed that it was close...to much happening to fast to be safe in my book.But then i dont like to run forward after a grab of brush as I find there is always one limb that will fall off and could head through the radiator or something. Good Attachment. and good demonstration..QUOTE=k0ua;3370296]Wheel in the air at 17:40. showing just what can happen when you don't have quite enough rear ballast on the back and even the slight angled terrain. More ballast, More Ballast.. (Ted the toolman rendition)

James K0UA[/QUOTE]