Single oil for multiple tractors

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wpala

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Hi
I have 2 older tractors , and 2 newer + RTV diesel, some older ones require SEA30 oil, newer 10W30, I found this on the amsoil web site and was wondering if this would be a good option of buying single oil for all my tractors? specs are impressive and is an Amsoil
here is a lin




AMSOIL Synthetic SAE 10W-30/SAE 30 Heavy-Duty Motor Oil


Any thoughts and recommendations are welcome
Paul.W
 
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The specs look pretty good.. Maybe you did find a good oil... You being in Canada is seems like the weight would be ok...

I don't use amsoil, but it's only because of availability reasons.. One thing we know for sure is that this oil is not going to hurt any of your engines...

I would run it and see.. Only if you have any unexpected oil consumption issues would I worry about changing back to anything else...
 
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yep. no way i'd use a straight weifght 30 in canada!

10w30 diesel oil syn.. not bad.
 
   / Single oil for multiple tractors #4  
Hi
I have 2 older tractors , and 2 newer + RTV diesel, some older ones require SEA30 oil, newer 10W30, I found this on the amsoil web site and was wondering if this would be a good option of buying single oil for all my tractors? specs are impressive and is an Amsoil
here is a lin




AMSOIL Synthetic SAE 10W-30/SAE 30 Heavy-Duty Motor Oil


Any thoughts and recommendations are welcome
Paul.W
In Canada winter, even here in Virginia, you really want a 0 or 5 for the 1st number. A 10 will slow your cranking in the cold and not lubricate as well during the first period of operation after starting.
larry
 
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5w40 is probably available there?
 
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Might want to run one of these two as they have ratings for new engine oil specs and some ot the older specs check your manuals for api requirements. The heavy duty was not rated to go in my M8540 with EGR

Premium API CJ-4 Synthetic 5W-40 Diesel Oil
Maximum Fuel Economy and Extended Drain Intervals in Ultra-Low Emission Diesel Engines
AMSOIL Premium API CJ-4 Synthetic 5W-40 Diesel Oil

Or what I use

Premium API CJ-4 Synthetic 15W-40 Diesel Oil
Superior Shear Stability and Extended Drain Intervals in Ultra-Low Emission Diesel Engines
The premium choice diesel oil for model-year 2007 and newer heavy-duty and pickup truck diesel engines requiring API CJ-4 emission-quality oil standards. Delivers extraordinary lubrication in diesel engines in commercial, fleet and personal applications. Exceeds modern specs for emission-quality diesel oil.

AMSOIL Premium API CJ-4 Synthetic 15W-40 Diesel Oil
 
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that amsoil loked like ti was rated for up to 2007 diesels..e tc. according to spec anyway.
 
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John Deere sells a synthetic oil 0w-40. I use it in pretty well everything I can year round. Every dealer around here stocks it and the price is reasonable for a synthetic. Here we pay $152 for 5 US gallons/18.9 liters.
 
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John Deere sells a synthetic oil 0w-40. I use it in pretty well everything I can year round. Every dealer around here stocks it and the price is reasonable for a synthetic. Here we pay $152 for 5 US gallons/18.9 liters.
Here I cant find it for less than $9 a quart Nobody around carries large containers and isnt interested in ordering enuf for a routine shipment to prevent a sizable premium for shipping.
 
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I bet the Amsoil or synthetic Deere oil would both be excellent for your use. I use Mobil 1 TDT 5w40 or when Shell has a rebate Rotella T6 5w40. Both are relatively affordable and always available. I would think a CJ-4 oil in 5w40 will work well for both old and new in your location.
 
   / Single oil for multiple tractors #11  
OP - that Amsoil ACD you listed has a decent Pour Point, for a straight 30 rated oil. Good oil, and also has an SL gasoline rating.

If any of your diesels really don't like cold weather starts, consider a 5W40 or 0W40 for easier starting. I'm seeing a fair amount of Rotella T6 available here now in 0W40.

I like many Amsoil products just fine, but I won't say No to T6, esp. On Sale....

Rgds, D.
 
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wpala we moved to 5W-40 Rotella T6 so we could have just one motor oil for everything be it gas or diesel that runs about $22 a gallon at WM. I do not know the AMSOIL line but some like it.
 
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If one has a problem with the cold, an oil pan heater works great. Got sold on them when living in Alaska. I have one on my NH Compact and my semi truck. Instead of worrying about some great major boutique oil that will flow nicely in Antarctica, just get the Amsoil 10w30 / 30w that the OP mentioned and if one has to deal with serious cold start ups, use a oil pan heater. Going to have to plug in a block heater anyway, so putting on a small oil pan heater is just making things that much better. Warms not only the oil, but the lower part of the block as well.

https://www.wolverineheater.com
 
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wpala we moved to 5W-40 Rotella T6 so we could have just one motor oil for everything be it gas or diesel that runs about $22 a gallon at WM. I do not know the AMSOIL line but some like it.

absolutely agree w/you, use it for every motor i have except 2 cycle
 
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I'm gradually moving to T6 as well. I might keep the 15W-40 Rotella T in my old Ford and another small engine that burns the 5w-40 a little too much. Either way I have reduced the number of oils from 4 or 5 down to 1 or 2. Much easier to keep on hand and less waste. Easier winter starts, and the engines smooth out much quicker after starting.
Also, if you have a Menards close to you check for Rotella there. They sell it for less than Wallmart.
 
   / Single oil for multiple tractors #16  
Locally O'Reilly as cut the price to $22 and right now they have a $5 Mail-In rebate too which is the kind I hate.

We have found T6 when first used in a dirty gas engine while cause the oil to go black very fast but in the case of the 1989 Ford 429 in the dump truck after a couple filter only changes it cleared up and stayed fairly clear. We like it for the zinc for out flat tappet engines.
 
   / Single oil for multiple tractors #17  
Hi
I have 2 older tractors , and 2 newer + RTV diesel, some older ones require SEA30 oil, newer 10W30, I found this on the amsoil web site and was wondering if this would be a good option of buying single oil for all my tractors? specs are impressive and is an Amsoil
here is a link
url=http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/diesel/synthetic-sae-10w-30-sae-30-heavy-duty-motor-oil/?code=ACD1G-EA]AMSOIL Synthetic SAE 10W-30/SAE 30 Heavy-Duty Motor Oil[/url]


Any thoughts and recommendations are welcome
Paul.W
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It's not just viscosity that matters.
Wear protection ratings and ash content are vital .
The knob that owned my Detroit Diesel two stroke JD 435's used ordinary HD diesel oil in the crankcase. He was pretty proud that he didn't need no service manual as he had used equipment for 50yrs and didn't need no d&m fool book to tell him what to do.
The high ash content and the multi weight additives scored the sleeves and plugged the ports with deposits.
Every now and again a manager of fleet operations where there is two stroke and four stroke equipment gets the bright money saving idea to use the same oil in everything. Lots of over time for the mechanics and business for the engine shop after those decisions .
Today we still have operators not using low ash oil in 2007 and later particulate filter diesels.
Was also have people using the modern low ash diesel oil in earlier diesels that don't have roller cam followers. Then they look baffled when they wipe out bearings, cams and followers.
 
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A 0w30, 5w30 or 10w30 oil can replace any oil requirement for straight 30w, long as they're diesel rated.

For my money I'd go with a 0w30 if I could find it. So far, I haven't found such for a diesel. My VW TDI uses a special 507 C3 oil made by Castrol that's 5w30. You can buy it at a VW dealership.

Ralph
 

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