Small MoCo's??

[AKfish]

Is there such a critter as a small (6-7ft) disc-type mower conditioner?

Thanks for any info.

AKfish

 

[mark.r]

Kuhn makes a 6'7" 3pt mount moco but it takes 80pto hp to run it as well as 1000rpm.

The also make a 7'10" pull behind that takes 60pto hp at 540rpm to run.

I don't know of any other "smaller" mocos.

 

[flusher]

Is there such a critter as a small (6-7ft) disc-type mower conditioner?

Thanks for any info.

AKfish

Check out Vicon's DMP 2401TC. It's a drum-type mo-co.

http://www.acidist.com/vicon/Specs/moco_leaflet.pdf

 

[Trac-Tech]

Hi Guys
The 2401 Vicon is a disc mower and is a good machine with a clean cut that is hard to beat. Keep the oil changed in the cutter bar reg and it should give you a good life. It can be sold as a trailed unit as well and also with rollers instead of a rotor conditioner.
Cheers

 

[mark.r]

Yes it's a good looking unit. I like the 3001TC mounted version. Easy to road and trailer transport.

 

[slowzuki]

If you're looking at older units, the NH408's I think they where called are around. Also, all kinds of 7ft sickle mower-conditioners. I can't imagine going down to a 7 ft'er though. You have to drive so fast to get any mowing done.

The 9 ft and 10 ft disc moco's are narrower than the 7 ft sickle bar moco's if gates are the problem.

 

[mark.r]

One thing is he never really said his reason for asking. Is power or size requirements. I looked at JD's 600 series Moco yesterday and they are nice for transport (road and gate) issues.

 

[AKfish]

Gentlemen - appreciate the information. I'm doin' my homework... or wool gatherin' as it were. (Very interesting posts regarding the accumulator and hay grapple systems; as well.)

I've been clearin' our property for a couple of year's now and we're lookin' at another 48 acre parcel that borders our place. Most of it is flat, high (no swamp) ground that would make several, small fields for hay, etc.

With the existing trees and the contours of the land; the fields wouldn't be your standard "square plots" but more like the layout of a golf course. Therefore, a smaller, more manueverable mower conditioner is something I'm most interested in.

I'm not focused on a big volume system (~50 acres) -- we generally only get one cutting of hay in this part of Alaska (Timothy, Blue grass) and 2,000lbs/acre (40 -- 50lb bales) is considered a very good yield.

A conditioner is paramount as the number and duration of "hay windows" is highly variable and lost hay to the weather is always a problem. Of course, getting the hay off the field as soon as it's baled is what everyone shoots for, too!

So... I've been intently following all the discussions here on TBN that have anything to do with hay production.

Thanks again.

The

 

[Deereman4020]

John Deere has an 625 it has a 8ft2in cutting width its starting price is about $20000 just thought id pass the info along

 

[AKfish]

John Deere makes very good equipment... and they never "give 'em" away - either! $20K for the MoCo and need 80hp-100hp Ag tractor; with baler, and tedder and rake.

Likely burn a big hole in a $100K bill for newer model JD equipment...

I can see an old model Farmhand accumulator and bale grapple and an old, $5K 2WD Ag horse with a $5K baler, tedder, rake combo in my future!!

AKfish

 

[ozzie tractor]

sounds like a good place to be making haylage if the windows of opportunity are as tight as you say. its sort of the same reason why a lot is made in my district, being a fairly high rainfall area (yes there are a few in Australia, its not all red desert, just most of it)

 

[mark.r]

John Deere makes very good equipment... and they never "give 'em" away - either! $20K for the MoCo and need 80hp-100hp Ag tractor; with baler, and tedder and rake.

Likely burn a big hole in a $100K bill for newer model JD equipment...

I can see an old model Farmhand accumulator and bale grapple and an old, $5K 2WD Ag horse with a $5K baler, tedder, rake combo in my future!!

AKfish

Well, that's what I was getting at in one of my earlier post. The suggestions were starting to go all over the place but that was because your only qualification was "small moco". Price range, 3pt vs. pull type, brand, hp req., etc. would help narrow it down quite a bit.

 

[slowzuki]

The maneuverability of the mo-co is almost all in the tractor driving it.

 

[mark.r]

The maneuverability of the mo-co is almost all in the tractor driving it.

Depending on how you define maneuverability. I assume you are talking about around the field, however, small fields fields, narrow roads, gates, etc. should all be considered when making a decision. It very well could be the difference between why one buys one type over the next. That is still considered maneurability.

 

[slowzuki]

I should add a bit more to that, in a trailed type unit, the turning radius and ability to work in small fields is limited by the tractor and having a the tongue set for proper tight angle pto operation.

A 2wd tractor with a short wheelbase is helpful. If you're worried about actual size for getting through gates, thats a different thing.

 

[mark.r]

I should add a bit more to that, in a trailed type unit, the turning radius and ability to work in small fields is limited by the tractor and having a the tongue set for proper tight angle pto operation.

A 2wd tractor with a short wheelbase is helpful. If you're worried about actual size for getting through gates, thats a different thing.

Again, like I said, it goes back to the original post he never said what exactly he was looking for and why, other than "small moco". I'm looking for a small moco too but my concerns are for transportation around small roads, gates and possibly having to haul it. Far different concerns than how I go about running it the field . . .

 

[jimg]

I should add a bit more to that, in a trailed type unit, the turning radius and ability to work in small fields is limited by the tractor and having a the tongue set for proper tight angle pto operation.

A 2wd tractor with a short wheelbase is helpful. If you're worried about actual size for getting through gates, thats a different thing.

The single exception would the the Kuhn trailed w/ the gyro hitch. I believe thats good to > 90deg turns.

 

[mark.r]

The single exception would the the Kuhn trailed w/ the gyro hitch. I believe thats good to > 90deg turns.

Doesn't JD have hitch now that is also good to > 90deg turns too? I thought I saw it in the 600 and 800 series brochure. Not positive though. I do think it is only applicable to the center pivot units though.

 

[jimg]

Dont know about that. I have their hay tools blurb but it doesnt mention any spc hitch.

 

[slowzuki]

Those gyro hitches would be nice for getting tight corners cut. I have a hard time getting the backswath on many of my fields.