Smokin' deal on 10,000watt generator $649 (Today only)

/ Smokin' deal on 10,000watt generator $649 (Today only) #121  
I don't know if you have propane for the house supply or not... but if you do, you might consider what I did last year:

I had the LPG supplier tie into the propane line coming into the house and add an outlet with correct fittings so I could simply run my $649 generator right off of my main 250 gallon LPG tank. I also keep 6 of the smaller 20# bottles - just in case. The supply line from my main tank installed was about $100.

I have to try that Gem99ultra,
I ran my 10k generator a couple hours yesterday and got to thinking about your post on hooking the generator to my 500# LP tank. Right now I have the tank 60' away from the house. It has a high pressure regulator on the tank. That goes then to a small copper line to the house with another regulator at the house. From there it goes to the furnace etc.

Between the high pressure regulator and the low pressure regulator on the house I teed of another line to a regulator to run my grill.

I am trying to figure out how to hook my generator up to work on the big tank.
I could run a high pressure line from before the first regulator and bury it 75' to where I would set the generator. Then I could use the pigtail on the generator just like I would on a small 20# tank, I think. I hesitate to do that because it is on a hill with all rocks.

The other option would be to hook the generator up the low pressure line after the last regulator just before my grill. My confusion would be where to hook it on the generator. I'm doubt hooking the low pressure line to the high pressure pigtail on the generator would work.

I am not sure if hooking it between the regulator on the generator and the motor would work because there are two lines there for some reason.

I was just wandering how you got yours piped up. It is a good idea though.
 
/ Smokin' deal on 10,000watt generator $649 (Today only) #122  
I have to try that Gem99ultra,
I ran my 10k generator a couple hours yesterday and got to thinking about your post on hooking the generator to my 500# LP tank. Right now I have the tank 60' away from the house. It has a high pressure regulator on the tank. That goes then to a small copper line to the house with another regulator at the house. From there it goes to the furnace etc.

Between the high pressure regulator and the low pressure regulator on the house I teed of another line to a regulator to run my grill.

I am trying to figure out how to hook my generator up to work on the big tank.
I could run a high pressure line from before the first regulator and bury it 75' to where I would set the generator. Then I could use the pigtail on the generator just like I would on a small 20# tank, I think. I hesitate to do that because it is on a hill with all rocks.

The other option would be to hook the generator up the low pressure line after the last regulator just before my grill. My confusion would be where to hook it on the generator. I'm doubt hooking the low pressure line to the high pressure pigtail on the generator would work.

I am not sure if hooking it between the regulator on the generator and the motor would work because there are two lines there for some reason.

I was just wandering how you got yours piped up. It is a good idea though.


My setup seems to be exactly like yours, i.e. high presure regulator at the tank, copper line to the house to another regulator. The LPG tech needed to T off of the house supply regulator to a low pressure regulator for the generator. I think he set the generator regulator at 12 pounds. Here's a picture of how mine is rigged:

LPG Regulator.JPG

The cross pipe in back of the new regulator is for a brace only and has no other purpose. Also as an aside, I asked the LPG deliver guy last December if this setup was possible. They said sure, but advised me to place my request in April or May after the winter rush passed and they were sitting around looking for something to do. Otherwise, the price would have be higher.

With this setup I have a heavy duty 6 ga extension cord to run to my water pumps and transfer box.

So far I've only used propane in my generator. I hope to be able to continue with that system, but I do have a gasoline supply just in case.
 
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/ Smokin' deal on 10,000watt generator $649 (Today only) #123  
My setup seems to be exactly like yours, i.e. high presure regulator at the tank, copper line to the house to another regulator. The LPG tech needed to T off of the house supply regulator to a low pressure regulator for the generator. I think he set the generator regulator at 12 pounds. Here's a picture of how mine is rigged:

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The cross pipe in back of the new regulator is for a brace only and has no other purpose. Also as an aside, I asked the LPG deliver guy last December if this setup was possible. They said sure, but advised me to place my request in April or May after the winter rush passed and they were sitting around looking for something to do. Otherwise, the price would have be higher.

With this setup I have a heavy duty 6 ga extension cord to run to my water pumps and transfer box.

So far I've only used propane in my generator. I hope to be able to continue with that system, but I do have a gasoline supply just in case.

Would be so kind as to show or explain how it was connected to the generator when it does happen? I have the regulator like yours for my grill I want to tap off of but the final hook-up is a concern.
 
/ Smokin' deal on 10,000watt generator $649 (Today only) #124  
Would be so kind as to show or explain how it was connected to the generator when it does happen? I have the regulator like yours for my grill I want to tap off of but the final hook-up is a concern.

I don't have my generator out by the connection right now, but in the interim, the black regulator on the right has the same connector fitting as the propane bottles. It has a dust cap on it right now just to keep it clean, but it's the same fitting that the bottles have. The generator just plugs right into that line same as with a bottle of LPG via a little pigtail that came with the generator.

I did buy a 15' LPG extension hose from HF that could also be used if I didn't want to sit the generator that close to the house. The hose was bought primarily for my weed burner, but it's plenty large for the generator.
 
/ Smokin' deal on 10,000watt generator $649 (Today only) #126  
Late day 4. Linemen replaced our transformer and the power is back on! Generator ran for over 15 hours without a hitch today. Will use it this weekend until it runs out of gas. Once gas is used up will run on propane for a while to clean out the carburetor, then I'll change oil before putting it back in the shed. Total run time was about 40 hours for this storm. At first I was constantly using my Kill-A-Watt meter and my multimeter checking voltage and Hz but then I got to where I just checked it after starting. Something I have said I was going to do and never did was find an 80-200 gallon Propane tank to run this generator. That's been bumped up on my to do list. Have a couple 5 gallon tanks but it was faster to fill gas cans than take those little bottles to get filled or exchanged. I want a propane tank large enough to run the generator a few days but small enough that if the Coop can't get out here to fill it I can load up in the back of my pickup and take it to be filled. With the price of propane at the Coop now it would have cost me half as much to run the generator this week if I'd had a large propane tank.

When I changed oil last time, it was about 40 deg. and the genrator was suspended from my loader bucket. When oil started flowing out the fill tube I rocked the generator back and forth. A large air bubble came out the tube. So I'm thinking trapped air maybe stopping the crank case from filling all the way. That's why after first fill I'm going to start the engine then recheck the oil level.

What kind of Hz reading were you getting?
 
/ Smokin' deal on 10,000watt generator $649 (Today only) #127  
I tested outlets on every 120v breaker in the house and it always read 62Hz. My Kill-A-Watt meter is supposed to have a Hz accuracy of 2%.
 
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/ Smokin' deal on 10,000watt generator $649 (Today only) #128  
/ Smokin' deal on 10,000watt generator $649 (Today only) #129  
Found a YouTube video on how to get the DuroMax 10,000w generators ready for storage after they have been ran on gas. I did not realize about a half a cup of gas is left in the carburetor even after running the engine till the tank is empty.

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youtube.com - PoweredBy DuroMax - DuroMax 10000EH How To Winterize Your Generator

That is a common issue - part of why I've gone to just stabilizing the gasoline, tank full, in things that won't sit longer than 1 year.

If you can reliably drain all the fuel, that will work - but in my case I want my generators to start ASAP (no stumbling around in the dark fueling), and extra steps/carb mods re. draining don't appeal to my lazy side.

Rgds, D.
 
/ Smokin' deal on 10,000watt generator $649 (Today only) #130  
i live way out of town and i put gas stabilizer in all my gas cans, lawn mower, weed eaters and leaf blowers, 4 generators, side by side, tractor, backhoe, and chainsaw. both 2 and 4 cycle all but cars. some of my equipment has sat for multiple years cause of my stroke and broken ankle. also when my house was a summer house, it might sit for a few years. never had a problem with any equipment. even boats that the outboards and inboards sat for years. stabil all gas cans year round so equipment is all ready year round. can't emphasie enough!!!!
 
/ Smokin' deal on 10,000watt generator $649 (Today only) #131  
That is a common issue - part of why I've gone to just stabilizing the gasoline, tank full, in things that won't sit longer than 1 year.

If you can reliably drain all the fuel, that will work - but in my case I want my generators to start ASAP (no stumbling around in the dark fueling), and extra steps/carb mods re. draining don't appeal to my lazy side.

Rgds, D.

Every time I drain all the fuel out it seems I always have a devil of a time starting them again. Now I use stabilizer and it works great for restarting later.
 
/ Smokin' deal on 10,000watt generator $649 (Today only) #132  
Every time I drain all the fuel out it seems I always have a devil of a time starting them again. Now I use stabilizer and it works great for restarting later.

I went this route, after I had to service a stuck float/seat on my old Briggs generator. I used to run it dry, but the tough thing with many carbs is getting all the fuel out. Some people have have good luck with dry storage - variables at play - carb types, primer design, regional fuel formulations, and any mods people have done. Some people have added fuel bowl drains, but that is something I prefer not to do.

I wouldn't by choice leave my stuff sitting idle and wet stored for something like 5 years, but based on good success with my street bike (MC) I shifted everything else to wet storage too and with Stabil I'm quite comfortable going up to 1 year of idle storage.

As others have posted here, I use Stabil all the time, even in season, in my small engines. I don't use my equipment commercially, so for the relatively small amount of gasoline I go through, I gladly just spend a little bit extra on Stabil so I don't have to rely on my less-than-perfect memory to dose properly before storage.

Rgds, D.
 
/ Smokin' deal on 10,000watt generator $649 (Today only)
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#133  
I'm frequently amazed how reliably eqpt starts after being stored drained. Usually starting on the first pull. There's something to be said about gasoline needing to be shaken/stirred after motionless storage. I give the eqpt a shake before filling the carb and vroom. Thats one reason fuel injected engines have less trouble- they run the pump for a moment to exchange the gas (back to the tank).

I've never used stabil, never had trouble with gas from the last season at all. I have over 50 engines. If last years gas was a problem I'd be getting a spanking (many) every spring if it was "the gas". Problems are likely something else. I don't buy no-name gas though, maybe that's how it works out for me. :confused3: I can see how having Stabil in the gas could add a measure of safety especially if the eqpt went more than a couple seasons unused. Easy for that to happen.

I do understand the guy who doesn't want to drain carbs. I've drained more than my share and may get tired of it someday. But it works so dang good and that first pull/kick/crank in the spring is satisfying. I've added drains to carbs its worthwhile if you use it. I don't think just running it 'til it quits gets you the benefit that draining gets you.

Also draining is too much for most people - many aren't sure if they'd strip the plug or if it has to be frikkin' tight, or just snug. Or how to evaluate the washer/seal/gasket. Or which screw is the drain. It sound simple but there's lots of little details to successful small engine maintenance that you take for granted but another guy doesn't know.
 
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/ Smokin' deal on 10,000watt generator $649 (Today only) #134  
I've never used stabil, never had trouble with gas from the last season at all. I have over 50 engines. If last years gas was a problem I'd be getting a spanking (many) every spring if it was "the gas". Problems are likely something else. I don't buy no-name gas though, maybe that's how it works out for me. :confused3:

If you are totally draining the carbs, then you are less likely to have an issue. It's mostly the residual gas in the carb that the form problem causing deposits.

Correct on the added carb-drains: aside from my laziness (modify/maintain/use), they add another point of failure to an engine. Externally exposed seals don't seem to live long, at least around here.

If my lawnmower gets sidelined by a fuel leak, then my grass grows a bit longer than it should. There are times of the year here when a generator down during an outage means a flooded basement - that reason alone keeps me away from carb drains. I can change drain seals, but I will stay with Thoreau on this one... but you're right, for a capable and prepared small-engine guy (less lazy than me :) ) it's not a big deal.

I've seen enough storage revival accounts on here that I also now believe fuel formulation matters - meaning regional, not brand. If you drove down the coast and bought a few 5 gallon cans of what ultrarunner has to use in the Bay area, your storage results might be different.

Curious - does your gas contain ethanol ? Also, check out Stabil 360 protection if you haven't seen it - one of the reasons I use it is to protect the inside top of metal gas tanks.

Rgds, D.
 
/ Smokin' deal on 10,000watt generator $649 (Today only)
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#135  
There are certainly problems but it also could be 95% "internet". I use Shell & Safeway gas simply because they're "on my route". The pumps are labeled "up to 10% ethanol". I don't buy the no-name stations for filling my gas cans because that's the only time I had trouble. I went there specifically for "non-ethanol" then all my carbs gummed up within 3 months. One time. I have a hunch those with gas problems are getting their problems from the no-names, and that's why they need the additives.

I tellya ....... something does NOT stack up about this ethanol thing. Ethanol has been around for 30 years and every forum of old guys believes it was Obamas doing. How does that utter lack of logic come in? Other that being "manufactured news". But it was everywhere a couple years ago. And now its gone, vaporized. Nothing changed with the gas, whats up with that? Well its gone because it costed money/maintenance to keep putting the fake news out there and nobody's paying for that work anymore so you don't see it anymore. Interesting huh? Follow the money.

I guess we'll see what happens to that issue next but probably will just fade away unnoticed. Point being it was a mountain made of a molehill and now its a molehill again so just carry on... ? This is my prediction. ;).
 
/ Smokin' deal on 10,000watt generator $649 (Today only) #136  
the difference is that everything non ethanol compatible finally rotted away and was fixed or repalced. fuel lines, seals, orings.. etc. only takes one season of your mower, chainsaw, weedeater, etc, not starting, to get everything with new gas lines and carbs rebuilt.. etc.
 
/ Smokin' deal on 10,000watt generator $649 (Today only)
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Ok for 30 years it was all trouble and everyone just hunkered down and got'er done just in time to make America great again!

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

OK I guess thats feasible. :cool:
 
/ Smokin' deal on 10,000watt generator $649 (Today only) #138  
you could expound on that opinion instead of making it intentionally vague. ( or maybee you can't.... )
 
/ Smokin' deal on 10,000watt generator $649 (Today only) #139  
OMG! Duramax 10,000 Dual fuel gen for $400 on eBay right now... w/ free shipping! 2 left
 
/ Smokin' deal on 10,000watt generator $649 (Today only) #140  
dont bother looking, I just bought both of them:laughing:
 

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