Smokin' in the boys room!

[RayH]

I feel that Just the very act of smoking in a public place constitutes rude behavior, so if I "rudely" ask a smoker to put it out, its because theyve already been rude to me just by lighting up. Just another perspective to think about next time someone acts rude to you. Theyve probably already decided you're rude and nasty before they even approach you.

 

[Bird]

I have found smokers to be MUCH MORE courteous than non smokers, who tend to think they are better, for some strange reason

Yep, like I said earlier, humans have a need to feel that they're "better" than someone, that there's someone they can look down on, and if weren't for not smoking some just wouldn't have any reason at all to feel superior to anyone else.

As my old grandmother used to say, it just depends on whose ox is getting gored. At the present time, Robert is happy because it's someone else's ox, but wait until it's his turn.

 

[RayH]

Yep, like I said earlier, humans have a need to feel that they're "better" than someone, that there's someone they can look down on, and if weren't for not smoking some just wouldn't have any reason at all to feel superior to anyone else.

Non smokers are superior to smokers. (within the very limited aspect of smoking). Its what most non smokers here are thinking but are too nice to say.. Explain to me what is superior about being a smoker. Is it that smokers dont live as long, they cant breath as well, or they spend an ungodly amount of $$$, or they stink, or they bother other people, or they are too weak to break the habit.
Please let me know what exactly is superior about smoking?

 

[Bird]

Ray, apparently we were typing at the same time, and I appreciate you jumping in there just in time to prove my point. I never said that smokers were superior; go back and read it again.

 

[tallyho8]

The main reason I quit smoking in 1986 was economics and health was secondary. I was up to 3 packs a day and my wife was smoking 2 packs a day and Winston cigarettes were selling for the outrageous price of $7 a carton. We used to plan our vacations where we would pass through an Indian reservation where we could buy a few cartons cheaper.

 

[RayH]

Ray, apparently we were typing at the same time, and I appreciate you jumping in there just in time to prove my point. I never said that smokers were superior; go back and read it again.

I understand that your point is that non smokers feel superior. I agree, and with good reason, we are. Theres nothing superior or even equal about smokers (in the context of having a nasty, dirty, unheathly, expensive habit that serves no purpose except to bother others).

 

[milkman]

It's been quite a few years since the newspapers published a very small article (they didn't want to give it too much publicity) on a study that was done that concluded smokers are your best workers. And yep, the guy who did the study was disappointed in the results since he was a non-smoker. His conclusion was that "smokers are addictive personalities so they must get addicted to work". But it's another reason I don't believe all the nonsense the medical profession has put out. I had many employees (up to 153 at a time) working for me for many years. I had both police officers and non-sworn (civilian) personnel, and, while there are exceptions to every rule, the smokers were generally the ones who showed up for work every day and did their job. It was the non-smokers who called in sick, kept their sick leave used up, and were frequently interested only in their paycheck.

Personally, I had so much sick leave accumulated that I could have taken off 2 or 3 days a month for years and still retired with the maximum accumulation.

Wonder how they came to that conclusion. When my wife was working the ICU, some of her coworkers were smokers, they were paid the same amount of hours as the non smokers although at least once each hour, they went to their hiding place to find their purse and get their cigaretts and lighter and walk down the hall, around the corner, down another hall and then outside to smoke, come back inside, down the hall, around the corner, down another hall, put their cigaretts and lighter away, put their purse away, get back up to speed as to what was going on, at least 20 minutes wasted, multiply that by how many smokers. Do you think the non smokers could get away with just sitting in a chair till the smokers return from their break? I can't see how the smokers are more productive.

 

[DUMBDOG]

I understand that your point is that non smokers feel superior. I agree, and with good reason, we are. Theres nothing superior or even equal about smokers (in the context of having a nasty, dirty, unheathly, expensive habit that serves no purpose except to bother others).

I cannot tell from your post, but are you a non smoker?

 

[Bandybear]

I feel that Just the very act of smoking in a public place constitutes rude behavior, so if I "rudely" ask a smoker to put it out, its because theyve already been rude to me just by lighting up. Just another perspective to think about next time someone acts rude to you. Theyve probably already decided you're rude and nasty before they even approach you.

What a narrow perspective you non-smokers have. If the use of a legal product is allowed, why does the use of that product constitute rude behavior? Again, if you go in to an establishment where YOU know smoking is allowed, who's choice was that? Having made that choice, why then do you feel entitled to tell someone engaging in a legal and accepted behavior at that location that they are being rude to you?

In my little Podunk area of central PA there are sufficient places that are non-smoking that I do not feel there would be a real need for me to enter a place that allowed smoking if I did not desire to. But when I do enter those places, I accept the fact that I entered there of my own free choice. Just because I chose not to smoke when I am out at a restaurant or club with my wife and children does not mean that I have a right to impose that choice on everyone else.


I am sure Bird will agree with me in that in our careers in law enforcement if the worst vice the people we dealt with was smoking our numbers would have been cut in half

 

[Bird]

I am sure Bird will agree with me in that in our careers in law enforcement if the worst vice the people we dealt with was smoking our numbers would have been cut in half

At least in half. Besides, all you non-smokers (or maybe I should say "us" non-smokers since I quit nearly a year ago) should be grateful to the smokers, since the smokers are paying those high taxes which keeps the rest of us from having to pay more taxes.