Starlink

[grsthegreat]

I plan on keeping my gen3 starlink after fiber heats up. Put it on standy mode just incase. The fiber co called me yesterday and asked if wanted my fiber ru to the house and placed online this week, but since ground is frozen it would have to run above ground temp.

I cant run aboveground due to driveway. Dang.

Will have to wait another month or so. Supposed to be in the 50°f next week

 

[BigBlue1]

That's a nice upgrade. I always thought it was unfortunate that it required extra adapters to run/keep your own wifi network

It never required additional components. The built-in just wasn't stellar. All depends on your location situation.

No. The cables are different. The default gen 3 cable is a little shorter, but there is a longer one as an option. Personally, the gen 3 are closer to industry standard cables, so I like it a bit better.

Redoing the cable wasn't pretty here either, but the increase in performance was great.

All the best, Peter

I had to replace the cable with my swap from Gen 1 round dish to the Gen 3. No other way around that since the Gen 1 cable was fixed inside the dish. But the performance difference with the Gen 3 was worth having to spend time re-doing the cable through the walls and along the roof.

 

[JRH02]

Congratulations on getting working fiber!

Fiber - that's almost funny for me to ponder. If available it would be the ONLY utility service of any kind available to us. Including a cell signal. What's even funnier is some folk, even rural ones, who think we are scamming or pulling a fast one because we don't have a physical address. For insurance and banking have we used our legal description. I've gotten trite notices from folk who have been dim enough that they tried to send USPS mail to the legal description and, gasp, it was returned.

Life is just hilarious sometimes. One day we may be forced to live in a metropolitan planned, 'sustainable' community so I better be happy to count the current blessings.

 

[grsthegreat]

Fiber - that's almost funny for me to ponder. If available it would be the ONLY utility service of any kind available to us. Including a cell signal. What's even funnier is some folk, even rural ones, who think we are scamming or pulling a fast one because we don't have a physical address. For insurance and banking have we used our legal description. I've gotten trite notices from folk who have been dim enough that they tried to send USPS mail to the legal description and, gasp, it was returned.

Life is just hilarious sometimes. One day we may be forced to live in a metropolitan planned, 'sustainable' community so I better be happy to count the current blessings.

What….you live in a tree? What do you do for fire or ambulance or police….. or is nothing available.

Even the hillbilles here in idaho that are totally off grid in the hills have an address.

 

[JRH02]

What….you live in a tree? What do you do for fire or ambulance or police….. or is nothing available.

Even the hillbilles here in idaho that are totally off grid in the hills have an address.

The Sheriff, EMS, fire district and hot shot crews know where we and others live. Some years back there was a festering fire in the woods from lightning that sprung up 1/4 mile away and I thought I smelled a whiff. The next thing I knew was a copter dumping water from a bladder. I can't imagine a city fire truck in town responding faster if I lived in such a place.

The address thing is understandable if you live on government roads. Our road (logging trail via easements on private land) has been around longer than this has been a county (territory). And we DO live in a treehouse: 1300 sq' of lodgepole logs built from scratch in a place no concrete truck will go. Some nice Amish folk from Idaho came and helped stack and do the dry in. They are my kind of hillbillys. True craftsmen with a chainsaw they were. Clean folk who never had a cross word.

Been here for quite a while now. It's pretty quiet.

 

[dfkrug]

The address thing is understandable if you live on government roads.

Around here, you get an address when you apply for a building permit, and the planning dept is supposed to use the County Road that your private road connects to, even if it is thousands of feet away. You can even choose the number, as long as it is in sequential order and the correct parity (even or odd). Is that how it works where you are?

I have been trying to get my County to do a better job of getting our private roads into the graphics database (correctly).

 

[Eagle1]

Around here, you get an address when you apply for a building permit, and the planning dept is supposed to use the County Road that your private road connects to, even if it is thousands of feet away. You can even choose the number, as long as it is in sequential order and the correct parity (even or odd). Is that how it works where you are?

I have been trying to get my County to do a better job of getting our private roads into the graphics database (correctly).

What is a building permit? No such thing around here. If you have enough property no sewage permit needed. Can't get water or sewer out here unless you provide it. Power can be challenging if you are a ways from any line. Many live on private property with an easement through National Forest property. Mostly dirt/gravel roads and no planning dept. My pond (before my time here) was put in by relocating the county road road around the pond and the old homestead was moved up the hill a piece.

 

[JRH02]

What is a building permit? No such thing around here. If you have enough property no sewage permit needed. Can't get water or sewer out here unless you provide it. Power can be challenging if you are a ways from any line. Many live on private property with an easement through National Forest property. Mostly dirt/gravel roads and no planning dept. My pond (before my time here) was put in by relocating the county road road around the pond and the old homestead was moved up the hill a piece.

TY @Eagle1 . The water well requires a permit but the driller does that and there's no inspection. A septic does require a permit AND inspection. But since I have not applied for a permit then we don't have a septic.

Is that how it works where you are?

Nope. But if you want one they'll sure grant it to you. And the assessor's office sure appreciates the heads up. Inspector Hector will probably pass about anything done around here so he won't have to make a return trip.

 

[grsthegreat]

Around here, you get an address when you apply for a building permit, and the planning dept is supposed to use the County Road that your private road connects to, even if it is thousands of feet away. You can even choose the number, as long as it is in sequential order and the correct parity (even or odd). Is that how it works where you are?

I have been trying to get my County to do a better job of getting our private roads into the graphics database (correctly).

Our houses here have to correspond to the GPS location taken at the driveway.

 

[JRH02]

What's a driveway?

A little Google camera car would be one of the funniest things I can think of seeing in this canyon.

 

[rontaki]

What's a driveway?

We park cars on the driveway, and drive cars on the parkway.

 

[B7510HSD]

If I was to get the Starlink Residential package is it possible to take it with the RV on a 2 month travel? Is antenna that hard to setup? Home is in wide open area as far as trees.

 

[BigBlue1]

If I was to get the Starlink Residential package is it possible to take it with the RV on a 2 month travel? Is antenna that hard to setup? Home is in wide open area as far as trees.

Physically the answer is 'yes'. I have a gen 3 system with a roam package we use for camping. It is easy to set up. Just put the antenna where it has a decent view of the sky and run the cable to it from the RV. The good thing about the gen 3 vs the mini system is that the router is in the RV with you, not originating out in the antenna, so the wifi is better. Yes, you can get a remote router for the mini and put that in the RV, but then you have two cables running to the mini. The system just needs a decently clear view of the sky - slightly north facing in the US - but it is fairly tolerant of moderate obstructions these days because of the large quantity of satellites in orbit now.

Practically, using a residential subscription (with any hardware) is 'challenging'. A residential subscription is tied to a single GPS location. You can go into your account and change your account address each time you move, but 1) that's kind of a pain, especially if you are on the move regularly; and 2) you run the risk of running into a 'at capacity' cell (geographic location defined by Starlink) that either doesn't allow you to join for service or will want to charge you a significant 'congestion' charge to join there. So, it *can* be done and some people find it works OK for them but just beware it may have pitfalls that will cause you pain.

In my mind, for $50/mo with the ability to turn it on and off as needed so I only pay for the months I'm using the RV I don't find a reason to try to make due with just a single subscription so I have a roam plan too. Also because my residential antenna is on the roof so I'd have to go up there to remove and replace it when camping AND because at that point my home would have zero Internet service, making my security & monitoring system unusable.

 

[B7510HSD]

Physically the answer is 'yes'. I have a gen 3 system with a roam package we use for camping. It is easy to set up. Just put the antenna where it has a decent view of the sky and run the cable to it from the RV. The good thing about the gen 3 vs the mini system is that the router is in the RV with you, not originating out in the antenna, so the wifi is better. Yes, you can get a remote router for the mini and put that in the RV, but then you have two cables running to the mini. The system just needs a decently clear view of the sky - slightly north facing in the US - but it is fairly tolerant of moderate obstructions these days because of the large quantity of satellites in orbit now.

Practically, using a residential subscription (with any hardware) is 'challenging'. A residential subscription is tied to a single GPS location. You can go into your account and change your account address each time you move, but 1) that's kind of a pain, especially if you are on the move regularly; and 2) you run the risk of running into a 'at capacity' cell (geographic location defined by Starlink) that either doesn't allow you to join for service or will want to charge you a significant 'congestion' charge to join there. So, it *can* be done and some people find it works OK for them but just beware it may have pitfalls that will cause you pain.

In my mind, for $50/mo with the ability to turn it on and off as needed so I only pay for the months I'm using the RV I don't find a reason to try to make due with just a single subscription so I have a roam plan too. Also because my residential antenna is on the roof so I'd have to go up there to remove and replace it when camping AND because at that point my home would have zero Internet service, making my security & monitoring system unusable.

Thanks for the response. I agree the roam plan is the way to go but the $50 month plan will not cut it as far as usage that is why the question on residential. We go once a year to a fixed location for 2 to 3 months and then back home. The roam unlimited plan is just too steep for me at this time. Thank you.

 

[civilian]

If it the same place year after year, what about a service there for that time and another service for home? Jon