Start/Stop technology

/ Start/Stop technology #21  
Not too crazy with the feature in my 18 f150. Simple switch in the dash to disable., just have to do it every time you drive. Prob an override for the Chevy too.

I can't find anything anywhere that says it can be turned off in the OP's Malibu.

That's one of the things I never liked about Ford's and Toyota's cruise control VS Chevy's... if I turn it on in a Chevy, it'll stay on for eternity until I turn it off, days, weeks, even months later. Gotta turn it on each time in the others.
 
/ Start/Stop technology #22  
I for one am not impressed with start/stop technology and see it as a problems in stop and go traffic ... Of if it can not be disabled I don't want it on vehicle....Its a technology I am not ready for and dont think its right for the times.....

Dale
 
/ Start/Stop technology #23  
I can't find anything anywhere that says it can be turned off in the OP's Malibu.

That's one of the things I never liked about Ford's and Toyota's cruise control VS Chevy's... if I turn it on in a Chevy, it'll stay on for eternity until I turn it off, days, weeks, even months later. Gotta turn it on each time in the others.

Guess you Chevy is different than mine.... Ever time I touch brakes its off....

Dale
 
/ Start/Stop technology #24  
I have a 14 Malibu with start stop technology. Works perfectly every time. It start / stops with the AC on, so that won't turn it off. I never use max AC, so can't comment about that working to turn off the start stop feature. I wouldn't worry about the starter wear and tear. I have 100K on mine with no problems.
 
/ Start/Stop technology #25  
We have a 2017 Nova with the push button start, no keys. When stopping at a traffic light the engine dies just like it is supposed to.
Can this gas saver system be bypassed? I am concerned about wearing the starter out.

Edit.... We have a Malibu, not a Nova. :confused3:

You need to drive with one foot on the brake and the other on the accelerator
 
/ Start/Stop technology #26  
On my F150 there is a dash switch but I never use it. It doesn't start/stop that often since I don't drive in heavy traffic. It is automatically disabled in tow mode. I'm not sure what the big deal is. The starter and battery are designed for this function. Of course, I've been driving hybrid cars for over 10 years so I hardly notice an engine shutting off now.
 
/ Start/Stop technology #27  
I tried to live with the start/stop on my '18 F150. I finally decided it had to go. I found a way to permantly disable it by unplugging the current sensor on the battery. The current sensor tells the Battery Management System if the battery has enough strength to restart the truck after auto-stop. I have been running it for about 8 months now with no adverse effects. There may be a similar sensor on your car.

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/ Start/Stop technology #28  
When the F150 came out with S/S on the 2.7L, people were worked up about the starter too. Then they found out it was a non-issue......just drive it.
 
/ Start/Stop technology #29  
I tried to live with the start/stop on my '18 F150. I finally decided it had to go. I found a way to permantly disable it by unplugging the current sensor on the battery. The current sensor tells the Battery Management System if the battery has enough strength to restart the truck after auto-stop. I have been running it for about 8 months now with no adverse effects. There may be a similar sensor on your car.

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The computer uses this sensor to tell the alternator how much to charge the battery. You probably shouldn't be disconnecting it.
 
/ Start/Stop technology #30  
The computer uses this sensor to tell the alternator how much to charge the battery. You probably shouldn't be disconnecting it.

Maybe I should not have but I did and also a friend's truck and 4 company trucks including the owner's personal F150. We have not seen any problems with any of them so far. The only visible change is they don't auto-stop any more. I don't mind them including this feature in the truck. They should provide a way for the customer to permanently disable it if desired.
 
/ Start/Stop technology #31  
The computer uses this sensor to tell the alternator how much to charge the battery. You probably shouldn't be disconnecting it.

Most alternators have an internal regulator that sense the system voltage by the wire at the alternator. I have to believe that this second sensor is more to measure the voltage fluctuations and health of the battery. If draw on the battery like A/C, lights, trailer brakes, accessories, are taxing it too much, then it will read it and limit S/S.
 
/ Start/Stop technology #32  
I have a KIA Stinger with the same Start/Stop feature. The default is on, so every time you start the vehicle you learn to also turn off this feature (push a button) when you fasten your seatbelt. There are a bunch of provisions that the start/stop feature is disabled automatically, you will just have to check your owners manual. I know on mine if it is set in a different mode besides "economy mode" or it the temp outside is above 95˚F, how you brake, etc....

It is annoying and I wish the default setting would be off but it probably has to be on to meet the government fuel requirements.

I do like the "coasting" feature it disconnects the drive shaft so the car's rpm drops way down to about 700 rpm, about half of the RPMs if this feature was not included.
 
/ Start/Stop technology #33  
Guess you Chevy is different than mine.... Ever time I touch brakes its off....

Dale

He is talking about turning the cruise control on/off not setting it with the ability to hit the resume button. If you don't know that it has an on/off feature, you probably have it turned on and are only using the set/resume feature.
 
/ Start/Stop technology #34  
Our new Toyota also has this. I think it's a pretty silly "feature" but I do appreciate that Toyota's implementation is also controlled by brake pressure. You have to hold the brake pedal past a certain point for the car to allow the engine to stop, and it only takes an hour or two of driving to get a good feel for where that point is. The cut off is a little past where I normally hold the brakes at a stop, so it doesn't activate except when I consciously decide to press a little harder, like if I know I'm going to be sitting still for a while. That kind of design detail really makes or breaks the usability of something like this.
 
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#35  
start stop vehicles are designed with a much heavier duty starter

I wouldn't worry about the starter wear and tear. I have 100K on mine with no problems.

The starter and battery are designed for this function.

Then they found out it was a non-issue......just drive it.

I have been convinced to forget about it. Thanks everyone for you're help.

Now if I can just remember if I have a nova or a malibu.
 
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#36  
I am also going to give that yellow/green thing a try, the next time Mrs.tiller lets me ride with her.
 
/ Start/Stop technology #37  
Guess you Chevy is different than mine.... Ever time I touch brakes its off....

Dale

No, it doesn't turn off. It releases, but it doesn't turn off. There's an on/off button. There's a set button. There's a resume button. Once you turn the on/off button to on in a Chevy, it stays on forever until you turn it off again, no matter how many times you turn the ignition off or on. In a Ford or Toyota, each time you turn off the ignitions in the vehicle, you have to turn the cruise control on again before you can use the set button.
 
/ Start/Stop technology #38  
You need to drive with one foot on the brake and the other on the accelerator

Tell that to Sammy Hagar...

One foot on the brake and one on the gas, hey!
Well, there's too much traffic, I can't pass, no!
So I tried my best illegal move
Well, baby, black and white come and touched my groove again!

Gonna write me up a 125
Post my face wanted dead or alive
Take my license, all that jive
I can't drive 55! Oh No!

Uh!
So I signed my name on number 24, hey!
Yeah the judge said, "Boy, just one more...
We're gonna throw your *** in the city joint"

Looked me in the eye, said, "You get my point?"
I said Yea!, Oh yea!
Write me up a 125
Post my face wanted dead or alive

Take my license, all that jive
I can't drive 55!
Oh, yea!

I can't drive 55!
I can't drive 55!
I can't drive 55!
I can't drive 55!
Uh!

When I drive that slow, you know it's hard to steer.
And I can't get get my care out of second gear.
What used to take two hours now takes all day. Huh!
It took me 16 hours to get to L.A.

Gonna write me up a 125
Post my face wanted dead or alive
Take my license, all that jive
I can't drive 55!
No, no no,

I can't drive...
(I can't drive 55!)
I can't drive...
(I can't drive 55!)
I can't drive 55!

 
/ Start/Stop technology #39  
He is talking about turning the cruise control on/off not setting it with the ability to hit the resume button. If you don't know that it has an on/off feature, you probably have it turned on and are only using the set/resume feature.


Ever time I shut key off.... It turns off cruise off until I turn it on again... Nothing to do with resume cruise after braking.... Don't understand the comment "its on all the time"....

Dale
 
/ Start/Stop technology #40  
No, it doesn't turn off. It releases, but it doesn't turn off. There's an on/off button. There's a set button. There's a resume button. Once you turn the on/off button to on in a Chevy, it stays on forever until you turn it off again, no matter how many times you turn the ignition off or on. In a Ford or Toyota, each time you turn off the ignitions in the vehicle, you have to turn the cruise control on again before you can use the set button.

Yours is different than mine... Everytime I turn key off.... It kills cruise until I physically turn it back on (nothing to do with reset or resume) .... Been driving this vehicle for long time, think I know about it's kinks and foibles....

Dale
 

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