Starting to turn blue - Thinking TC40D

[Roto]

The R4 are way better then R1 in winter plowing. i have 2 tractors one with R4 and one with R1 and R4 wins hands down. Also the one with R1's now used to have R4 and I traded and I lost a-lot of traction in winter. have to put chains on it. the R4 have more rubber on the ground hence better traction in my opinion. i guess it depends on sticky snow versus powder versus tar or dirt surface but My R4 have never filled up with snow or mud it must be really muddy to fill treads. Maybe just type of mud(clay) or whatever. I would go with R4 hands down in my opinion. Strictly grass go with Turf. for field work (plowing dragging seeding haying) go with R1 but a combination of things from mowing to dirt work go with R4. Oh yeah I mow my lawn with the R4 and it dont mark it up at all but you cant touch lawn with R1 it will mark it up bad.

Mike

 

[djradz]

I just noticed Barry is in central Indiana, so maybe the snow-plowing issue is not that important, but I'll continue to disagree anyway. ... hey isn't that what this forum is all about! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif What I've found is the following:
1) The tires are so huge that the surface area is very large, and so they tend to float more.
2) The raised portion of the tread is flat, and so they tend to float more.
3) The tread configuration is such that there's not much angle to the rib, so it "digs in" less.
4) The tires do seem to work a little better on an icy surface, such as the paved portion of my drive, when conditions are right (or is it wrong) but that to me is the only time I've seen improved performance.
5) I've actually gotten almost-stuck, more times than I care to admit, in deep snow 10" or more, because the tires do just as I've mentioned above.
6) What appears to happen is where the ag tires would dig and compress and create a footprint, the r4s just keep spinning.

All that said, I love the r4s otherwise. They ride smooth, don't mar my lawn areas, carry load like there's no tomorrow, have excellant abrasion and cut resistance, and are great for mowing fields and general work. I'd just like to have a second set of ags for plowing, disking, and snow work. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[db2]

I totally agree with djradz. Have a TC40DA with R4s. At times I wish I had the R1s

 

[Roto]

well i have a paved drive and my tires arent usually floating on snow since i like to push snow with bucket scraping ground so tires are usually on ice, tar or hard packed snow so packing snow or driving across snow is nothing i do. However, I have gone out and broke trail before in a foot or more of snow and in 4wd i can go anywhere and not spin. it seems to have super traction. Like I mentioned before, My AG tires are useless on hard pan, ice, compared to the R4's. most people plow down to the ground! hehe /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Nothing like a good ole discussion on the tractor forum. isnt this what life is all about! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

mike

 

[kensfarm]

My vote is for hydro w/ R1's.. I even mow the lawn w/ my R1's & FEL on.. fronts are foamed filled.. rears are liquid filled w/ wheel weights. It's not a golf coarse lawn..

 

[PineRidge]

I also agree with djradz's comments.

I would like to add that I believe R-1s might work well on a tractor that weighs considerably less than a TC-40D for lawn use.

I used a 25 HP with AG's for more than a few years when we first purchased our land and got along on the turf quite nicely.

That said I know even without trying them on our TC-40D that it wouldn't be realistic to expect them to not tear up the turf considering the weight of the tractor with loader and backhoe. This was our main reason for ordering the R-4s.

 

[kozak]

Did'nt do a full read of all the threads but based on R1's versus R4's.....if you have a Class 3 Boomer, You put 500 Lbs on the backend & you will not have a problem. Soft wet snow.....no problem. Now not sure for mud. Don't know if I'll ever know as I only have 2.3 acres & will not go out if I think I will put out ruts. Still feeling my way....but the R1's have surprised me...... if you got weight in the back. No need to put chains on which is great.

 

[kozak]

OK..... /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gifdid I get that wrong ?? R1's are actually Ag style tires ?? I've got turf tires currently. OK.....so what....I'm bowing out & if you guys need any other advice... give me a shoout.