Step by step photos of new garage

[Lynkage]

True.
But EMT is not that hard it just requires a $30 bender that tells you everything you need to know on the bender. Also EMT is your ground. With PVC you need to run a ground wire in it. So less wires to deal with I feel is better. Also using metal boxes is just a good idea in a shop.

Tools use quite a bit of power and (IMO) are in need of better electrical current availability.

Also as was said earlier use spec grade 20 amp outlets and 12awg wire for hot and 10awg neutral (if you are sharing neutral's between circuits) for the best protection and current availability.

I only say this because it is just safer.

BTW congrats on your project.!!
Shane

 

[ultrarunner]

gemini I've run into the same situation... working on a vacant rental vs. working on my home. When I have a choice, I work on my home because work I hire done at my rental is deductible as a business expense whereas money spent on your home generally is not, at least until you sell and figure out your capital gains to see if you are over your exclusion.

GFCI Many shops don't use GFCI outlets. Instead, these use GFCI circuit breakers and you would never know by looking at the outlet unless it is tagged.

In my area, the inspector allowed me to put in a NON GFCI outlet/breaker for the garage freezer and another one for the overhead garage door opener. Something about dedicated outlets vs. convenience outlets. This was 2 years ago in the city.

 

[gemini5362]

gemini I've run into the same situation... working on a vacant rental vs. working on my home. When I have a choice, I work on my home because work I hire done at my rental is deductible as a business expense whereas money spent on your home generally is not, at least until you sell and figure out your capital gains to see if you are over your exclusion.

GFCI Many shops don't use GFCI outlets. Instead, these use GFCI circuit breakers and you would never know by looking at the outlet unless it is tagged.

In my area, the inspector allowed me to put in a NON GFCI outlet/breaker for the garage freezer and another one for the overhead garage door opener. Something about dedicated outlets vs. convenience outlets. This was 2 years ago in the city.

Ultrarunner what you say makes sense. If you put in a GFCI breaker you obviously don't need GFI outlets. I can see putting in a non-GFCI outlet or breaker for a freezer or refrigerator so that you dont have the problem with them tripping and losing all your frozen food. The danger of you getting shocked by your refrigerator is pretty low. I do however feel that in my shop where my life is on the line if something malfunctions I am going to use Some kind of ground fault protection. Especially since the cost is pretty minimal compared to the cost of building a new shop or garage.

 

[gemini5362]

True.
But EMT is not that hard it just requires a $30 bender that tells you everything you need to know on the bender. Also EMT is your ground. With PVC you need to run a ground wire in it. So less wires to deal with I feel is better. Also using metal boxes is just a good idea in a shop.

Tools use quite a bit of power and (IMO) are in need of better electrical current availability.

Also as was said earlier use spec grade 20 amp outlets and 12awg wire for hot and 10awg neutral (if you are sharing neutral's between circuits) for the best protection and current availability.

I only say this because it is just safer.

BTW congrats on your project.!!
Shane

Lynkage some of us are mechanically challenged and although the bender has everything you need to know on it. It doesnt have the ability to make you be able to do it. I am not worth a flip at bending conduit. The amount of money I waste trying to get it right is a lot more than just buying the 90 or 45 degree pvc bends. I was not aware that code alows you to use the emt as ground. I would not do that even if it did. It is not that hard to get romex with a ground or to run a green ground wire. Not doing that might be cheaper but as I have said before I do not put a price on my life. The problem with EMT as a ground is the continuity between joints.

 

[kmdigital]

True.
Also EMT is your ground. With PVC you need to run a ground wire in it. So less wires to deal with I feel is better. Also using metal boxes is just a good idea in a shop.

The NEC no longer allows EMT to be used as a ground, and requires all conduit to include a separate ground wire, whether PVC or steel. This has been the case for app 10 years or so.

 

[Inspector507]

The NEC no longer allows EMT to be used as a ground, and requires all conduit to include a separate ground wire, whether PVC or steel. This has been the case for app 10 years or so.

Wow............my copy of the NEC® must be defective then. According to mine, 250.118 says you can.

 

[roermo]

Well got the ceiling lights installed, and started puting up the osb. I can already tell how much better it is to heat. I stuck a thermometor in behind the insultion against the cement and then room temp and temp at the osb and there is better than 20 deg diff I would say.

I love being able to walk in and turn on lights instead of using floor lights. Made it like day time in there.

Over this work week when I get home from work I hope to have all the lower 4x8 sheets up, some time this week the garage doors should be up. Then I have to cut the drive down 5 or so inches to get ready for base rock for the drive.

Has any one ever installed their own vinly siding or is it more cost effect to have it done. I have not put out any bids yet.

Have a good week all

Roger

 

[Lynkage]

Lynkage some of us are mechanically challenged and although the bender has everything you need to know on it. It doesnt have the ability to make you be able to do it. I am not worth a flip at bending conduit. The amount of money I waste trying to get it right is a lot more than just buying the 90 or 45 degree pvc bends. I was not aware that code alows you to use the emt as ground. I would not do that even if it did. It is not that hard to get romex with a ground or to run a green ground wire. Not doing that might be cheaper but as I have said before I do not put a price on my life. The problem with EMT as a ground is the continuity between joints.

I also really understand this to be the case. But you can by the 90's and 45's as well. A 1/2" conduit can carry quite a bit of current vs a wire. I dare say more and better ground than a wire. Yes it can become loose over time but if installed properly can be life saving as well. GFI's work off of a ground vs neutral comparaison so it is important to have a good ground. also a good ground will save your life.

I am not trying to say anyone is wrong just understand electricity will take the least resistive path. So if you have given it that then you will be safer.

 

[LK3054KIOTI]

Has any one ever installed their own vinly siding or is it more cost effect to have it done. I have not put out any bids yet.

Install the siding yourself, very easy and a whole lot cheaper, ask BIL to help line you out and have fun.

 

[Lynkage]

NIce job Rodger!!

Looks like that tractor is going to be happy too!!