Step by step photos of new garage

[roermo]

The last picture I posted last night is of my chocolate lab in my garage. He is not impressed with the garage as you could tell by him gnawing on a log to pass some time.

I can't wait the doors are going to put in on wed morning both in the new garage and lower basement garage of the house. Then the next step is to finish back filling the west side of the garage if it ever drys out, and putting in base rock for the new drive.

It makes it hard to go to work when you want to finish the project, but all in due time.

Roger

 

[sandman2234]

Labs, especially young ones are fond of chewing on most anything, including a garage!
Got two out back, and the younger one made off with a friends flashlight that we still haven't found.
David from jax

 

[Inspector507]

GFI's work off of a ground vs neutral comparaison so it is important to have a good ground.

Wow, once again my copy of the NEC® seems to defective. It says you can replace a non-grounded two pronged receptacle with a GFCI.

The GFCI operates by sensing the difference between the current in the Hot and Neutral conductors.

 

[gemini5362]

I also really understand this to be the case. But you can by the 90's and 45's as well. A 1/2" conduit can carry quite a bit of current vs a wire. I dare say more and better ground than a wire. Yes it can become loose over time but if installed properly can be life saving as well. GFI's work off of a ground vs neutral comparaison so it is important to have a good ground. also a good ground will save your life.

I am not trying to say anyone is wrong just understand electricity will take the least resistive path. So if you have given it that then you will be safer.

Lynkage I am sure you a re right. If you were talkingabout ridgid I might agree with you but probably not . EMT is basically only held in place by a screw that tightens in a coupling. To me it could be possible to have a problem with dust or dirt getting in the coupling and making a high resistance joint out of the coupling. Or the screw come loose and not have good continuity between the joints. The other possibility is that something happens the conduit gets pulled apart. (not that i have ever had a vertical joint of emt come loose and fall apart because I did not get it tight enough)

It might carry more current but why would it need to. If you have a good ground wire going to the terminal that the ground of your equipment plugs into then if you get a short that is going to trip a breaker more than likely. If it doesnt that ground wire is still the least path of resistance to ground. If anything happens to you probably you will get a small shock and let go. Rather than a major shock that you cant let loose of.

I do believe that the other poster is right. I think that GFI circuits work off the balance of current in the hot versus the neutral. think of it as a KIrchoffs' Law of Current device. I do not believe it works off of current in the ground path. There is a pretty good explanation here Ground Fault Interrupter

I would however never recommend installing an outlet that did not have a very good secure ground to the ground terminal.

 

[kmdigital]

I obviously can't tell from the pictures on the outlets that are covered up already, but on the ones that are visible I see that you didn't secure the Romex wire yet. By NEC you are supposed to secure the wire with a staple within app 6" of the box, and I see that hasn't been done yet on your upper receps. Hopefully you already did that for the ones that are covered.

 

[Lynkage]

Wow, once again my copy of the NEC® seems to defective. It says you can replace a non-grounded two pronged receptacle with a GFCI.

The GFCI operates by sensing the difference between the current in the Hot and Neutral conductors.

That is my Fault!! I did state that wrong. It does a compare from the hot side. But without a good ground you can have problems with GFI's as the norm is the neutral is bonded (tied to ground) this can vary between different type of circuits IE Isolated ground circuits. It also reduces noise in circuits and some are very sensitive to this. Grounding can be a long winded subject as well.

As far as conduit in general goes it really is my preference to use it because adding circuits is much easier then pulling Sheetrock down and all that mess. Plastic (for me ) takes up to much room.

As for this thread goes I have gone somewhat off topic and I apologize to the original poster.

 

[Lynkage]

Wow, once again my copy of the NEC® seems to defective.

Maybe we can get you a non defective copy!

Thanks for your correctness!!

 

[roermo]

Km: thanks for the note, I have staplped the line along the run with great trouble due to the fack I pulled the line so tight. The upper line has enough slack and will be easy to work with. I tend to learn as I go and some times too late.

Last night with the service panel hot, I pulled a temp line that was dead out of the box but the wire was exsposed (ground) it rubed up to the back of the panel where the breaker hooks up and I had big fire ball. I was smart enough to have my hands on the yellow jacket and not the bare wire. Learned to have the pannel off.

I am here to work tomorrow.

Roger

 

[dfeck]

Roger,

I just ran across this thread and finished reading. My thought around a heating alternative for wood is maybe a pellet/corn stove. I'm not sure how insurance companys look at them but they may be an option. I've never had one but have been told they cost little to keep fueled and people that have them say they work great.

As with the siding, I built a very small shed (12x16) and sided it myself with vinyl. Very easy to do and you will save lots of money in labor. Just make sure you have the right tools. I used small tin snips and they were a pain. I'd recommend purchasing the larger siding shears that are larger.

Doug

 

[roermo]

Doug, I check with insurance company and any kind of wood or pellit heat is out. I would love to heat by wood, I do my house go figure. I am thinking of doing the siding myself just got to find a book on how.

Got one of the two doors in today, boy that made a diffrence on the looks of the garage and a lot of hep in heating the garage. Tomorrow the matching door for the garage in the house.

Roger