Okay, first time poster and first time working with woven wire fencing. I've fenced in my pastures with high tensile 4 strands and it works great. However, I have a puppy who insists on going to bark at the neighbors and their visitors. Neighbor blew a fuse last time and said he would shoot the dog if he came on the property again. Sooooo.....I'm installing woven wire fence about 9 feet beyond the existing high tensile in hopes of keeping him for getting in really big trouble. I have about 1000' to run and have set the corner posts. The terrain in the back of the field is uneven and goes down and then up a hill in the first 200 feet. How do I get this pulled tight? I'm thinking I may end up doing this myself and don't have a tractor although I do have a pickup....only 2 WD though. I need to get this done ASAP. I'm using 47 inch woven wire fencing. They had the high tensile woven wire but I got the heavier stuff. Fortunately they loaded it so I could roll it out of the bed of the truck.
stretching woven wire over uneven ground
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amigauser
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Not to sound stupid, why don't you just put the dog on a run? I know my area has leash laws.
Western
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If the slope is steep, I usually will put in a "dead stop" or a double "H" brace in the lowest part of the dip. pull to the brace tie it off and re-start.
You don't need a tractor. buy a fence puller or make one with 2 2x4's and 4 bolts and use a come- a-long to pull the wire. If the dog starts going under the fence you may try a run of wire at the ground to tie your fence to.
You don't need a tractor. buy a fence puller or make one with 2 2x4's and 4 bolts and use a come- a-long to pull the wire. If the dog starts going under the fence you may try a run of wire at the ground to tie your fence to.
forgeblast
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I had a similar issue with land sloping down as i was putting up the fence.
I tried to use a fence puller, it was not a bolt on type and it yanked the first woven part off of the field fence. So i went slow and just unraveled it as i went. Once i had it all unrolled I went back and stapled it to the posts. I used galvinzed metal tent pegs to hold the bottom to the ground since my dog can dig. I also went back over the bottom part of the fence with "modified stone" and packed it down. Once this was done i screwed the rails (its a 3 rail fence) over the fencing to help hold it in place. If i was getting to much slack in somem places i would just kind of crimp it so that it would go back to being streight.
I feel so much better having my dogs fenced in. THey were on runs and they would get wrapped around the trees and every morning, especially the cold ones they would be stuck. While one of my dogs were stuck my neighbors dog came up and bit her good. The fence keeps his dog out, and mine are safe.
My other neighbors dog just did 600 dollars worth of damge to my wifes car when she jumped and scratched the paint and doors, (car was less then a month old). He still lets it run free.
Fencing is the best way, keeps your neighbors happy and your dog safe.
I tried to use a fence puller, it was not a bolt on type and it yanked the first woven part off of the field fence. So i went slow and just unraveled it as i went. Once i had it all unrolled I went back and stapled it to the posts. I used galvinzed metal tent pegs to hold the bottom to the ground since my dog can dig. I also went back over the bottom part of the fence with "modified stone" and packed it down. Once this was done i screwed the rails (its a 3 rail fence) over the fencing to help hold it in place. If i was getting to much slack in somem places i would just kind of crimp it so that it would go back to being streight.
I feel so much better having my dogs fenced in. THey were on runs and they would get wrapped around the trees and every morning, especially the cold ones they would be stuck. While one of my dogs were stuck my neighbors dog came up and bit her good. The fence keeps his dog out, and mine are safe.
My other neighbors dog just did 600 dollars worth of damge to my wifes car when she jumped and scratched the paint and doors, (car was less then a month old). He still lets it run free.
Fencing is the best way, keeps your neighbors happy and your dog safe.
So, Forge, was the wire pretty tight when you finished by just unrolling and installing it that way? How close did you put your posts?
As to keeping him on a run, I have the same problem that he gets wrapped around things and gets stuck. Also, he wouldn't be able to play with his ponies then or help me with chores with the horses. This way he can still have fun and be safe but not able to get to the neighbor's house.
I had looked at the sites about fence pullers and that will work once I get further up the fence line and things level out but not so much in the back. Does the fence puller tend to warp the fence when you are pulling? In other words, if I pulled it in the middle to get it to the first upslope, would I have to cut it and splice it to clean it up from being pulled on?
Thanks!!
As to keeping him on a run, I have the same problem that he gets wrapped around things and gets stuck. Also, he wouldn't be able to play with his ponies then or help me with chores with the horses. This way he can still have fun and be safe but not able to get to the neighbor's house.
I had looked at the sites about fence pullers and that will work once I get further up the fence line and things level out but not so much in the back. Does the fence puller tend to warp the fence when you are pulling? In other words, if I pulled it in the middle to get it to the first upslope, would I have to cut it and splice it to clean it up from being pulled on?
Thanks!!
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Sassione, Welcome to the forum.
I'd suggest a shock collar and some dog training. I'd get an extra trigger control and give it to your neighbor. He can shock the pup at the same time telling it to go home. Burns my fuse when the neighbors dogs run onto my property to bark and bark at me and my family going for a walk or mowing my lawn. And when I have to drive through the dog crap it burns me even more. So inconsiderate. !!!
But if you think the fence is what you need, so be it. Erecting shorter stretches as suggested is my recommendation.
I'd suggest a shock collar and some dog training. I'd get an extra trigger control and give it to your neighbor. He can shock the pup at the same time telling it to go home. Burns my fuse when the neighbors dogs run onto my property to bark and bark at me and my family going for a walk or mowing my lawn. And when I have to drive through the dog crap it burns me even more. So inconsiderate. !!!
But if you think the fence is what you need, so be it. Erecting shorter stretches as suggested is my recommendation.
forgeblast
Elite Member
I wasnt able to use the fencepuller, it yanked part of the redbrand field fence that i use right off. So i just rolled it out and then moved it down and rolled it out etc... I found it was easier to have it unrolled first and then just pulled it to where i needed it.
The posts are 8' apart, because we wanted the rail look.
The wire stays tight, (i have it stapled to the fence rails and it holds it in place .) and my dogs have tested it good, especially when the deer come in our yard.
The hardest part for me was digging the holes, no matter where they went i hit stone, i have a set of jack hammer bits i used to break through the stone, but that still takes time.
Ill try to post a pic this weekend.
The posts are 8' apart, because we wanted the rail look.
The wire stays tight, (i have it stapled to the fence rails and it holds it in place .) and my dogs have tested it good, especially when the deer come in our yard.
The hardest part for me was digging the holes, no matter where they went i hit stone, i have a set of jack hammer bits i used to break through the stone, but that still takes time.
Ill try to post a pic this weekend.
Erik_in_Hoyt
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for minor ground swell/dips I cut a shallow trench to put the fence in. For steep changes in level, I put in a 5' or so long piece of cattle panel instead of an H and tie the woven wire to each end. (that way one cattle panel handles both ends and the middle of a hill)
I also run a hot wire 8" up from the bottom and at the top of the fence to discourage digging/climbing.
good luck!
I also run a hot wire 8" up from the bottom and at the top of the fence to discourage digging/climbing.
good luck!
Beenthere,
I have the shock collar and starting training but also adding fence. I don't want to take any chances. Laugh....maybe I should post for collar training too, since I've never done that either. He's a good puppy for the most part but just has a brain fart now and then.
Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm going to start putting it up this weekend and I'll put up some pictures when I get it done. Those rolls are heavy but I figure determination should give me the energy to move them up and down the hills in the back. I'm using T-posts and wood posts now and then in between. Wish I had enough daylight to get all the H-braces set before the weekend so I could run the whole length of fence. How long do I need to let them settle before attaching fence to them? I'm adding a bag of concrete to each hole which fills it up over half way and then tamping them in place really good. Talk about a great upper body workout.....digging with a hand posthole digger, tossing in the posts and then tamping the daylights out of it!!
I have the shock collar and starting training but also adding fence. I don't want to take any chances. Laugh....maybe I should post for collar training too, since I've never done that either. He's a good puppy for the most part but just has a brain fart now and then.
Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm going to start putting it up this weekend and I'll put up some pictures when I get it done. Those rolls are heavy but I figure determination should give me the energy to move them up and down the hills in the back. I'm using T-posts and wood posts now and then in between. Wish I had enough daylight to get all the H-braces set before the weekend so I could run the whole length of fence. How long do I need to let them settle before attaching fence to them? I'm adding a bag of concrete to each hole which fills it up over half way and then tamping them in place really good. Talk about a great upper body workout.....digging with a hand posthole digger, tossing in the posts and then tamping the daylights out of it!!
forgeblast
Elite Member
put a 4x4 on the roll and roll it out, if you can roll so that its going downhill...lol makes it easier. I love/hate my phd. love when it hits dirt hate when it hits rocks.
Here is a close up of how we put the field fence in.
fence tester at work
part of the dog area...they treat it like a playground we call it chucky cheese.
The reason for the bottom board lower was to make sure the dogs would not dig under it, and to give us something to staple to at the lower end of the fence. I have modified all around the insde of the fence and the lower fence board keeps it in place.
Here is a close up of how we put the field fence in.
fence tester at work
part of the dog area...they treat it like a playground we call it chucky cheese.
The reason for the bottom board lower was to make sure the dogs would not dig under it, and to give us something to staple to at the lower end of the fence. I have modified all around the insde of the fence and the lower fence board keeps it in place.
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wroughtn_harv
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You can go to my website on handling wire Unrolling Wire or you can do a search here for stretching woven wire. I know there's more than one how to we've done here over the years. I can take V Mesh and go up and down a couple of feet in a hundred feet or so and it will all be tight when I'm done. A little patience and some time is all it takes.
gtrippleb
Gold Member
When I put up the kennels for my two dogs, an area 20ft by 20ft, I used a pair of needle nose vice grips to make the wire tight. It works pretty good but I wouldn't want to do more than a couple of hundred feet that way. Now that I have my tractor, I'll use it to do the stretching when I put up my fence to go around my property. I did notice that if I didn't put anything between the wooden posts or put them in concrete and let them harden, that the wire was so tight that you could see the post being pulled one way or the other.
Stretch it to fit the bottom in a valley and the top on a hill. Then use a carpenter's hammer to twist the loose upper or lower section. Insert the nall pulling jaw into the wire and give it a 90 degree twist.
To unroll the wire, I bolt a pipe onto one wall of my loader bucket. With the bucket curled forward, the pipe is horizontal. This makes it easy to load the wire coil. Curl it back and its vertical. Then drive the tractor down the fence line and the wire will unroll once you tack the starting end. Use a piece of plywood for the base of the bucket swivel so it doesn't catch on the bucket walls. Cut a hole in it to fit over the pipe.
To stretch the wire, use your tractor in creeper gear to slowly pull it tight. Use intermediate steps to check the tension and freeness at each post. Then staple it down from the beginning end. When you get to the tractor end, the wire will be tight but easily relaxed at the end section when you let the tractor move back. Use a chain or 2 pieces of 2x4 to capture the wire for pulling. Be careful not to pull too hard. You may find that the starting post breaks or pulls out and comes flying at you !
Some dogs like to dig under a fence, so make sure the bottom wire is at the very ground level. If Fido still is curious, run a hot wire for a few days 6" off the ground to remind him of his responsibility. And for heavens sake, don't P on the wire.
To unroll the wire, I bolt a pipe onto one wall of my loader bucket. With the bucket curled forward, the pipe is horizontal. This makes it easy to load the wire coil. Curl it back and its vertical. Then drive the tractor down the fence line and the wire will unroll once you tack the starting end. Use a piece of plywood for the base of the bucket swivel so it doesn't catch on the bucket walls. Cut a hole in it to fit over the pipe.
To stretch the wire, use your tractor in creeper gear to slowly pull it tight. Use intermediate steps to check the tension and freeness at each post. Then staple it down from the beginning end. When you get to the tractor end, the wire will be tight but easily relaxed at the end section when you let the tractor move back. Use a chain or 2 pieces of 2x4 to capture the wire for pulling. Be careful not to pull too hard. You may find that the starting post breaks or pulls out and comes flying at you !
Some dogs like to dig under a fence, so make sure the bottom wire is at the very ground level. If Fido still is curious, run a hot wire for a few days 6" off the ground to remind him of his responsibility. And for heavens sake, don't P on the wire.
bindian
Super Member
Why do you just install an electric underground doggie wire. The dog wears a collar that zaps him when he walks past the underground wire. I think it is called Invisible Fence.
hugs, Brandi
hugs, Brandi
CurlyDave
Elite Member
I agree with the invisible fence idea.
We used it for years with our two labs when we lived in the city. The only failures were when we let the batteries in the collars go too long without changing them.
It sounds pricey when you first investigate, but compared to a physical fence it is inexpensive.
Let the neighbor know what you are doing and he my be cooperative.
We used it for years with our two labs when we lived in the city. The only failures were when we let the batteries in the collars go too long without changing them.
It sounds pricey when you first investigate, but compared to a physical fence it is inexpensive.
Let the neighbor know what you are doing and he my be cooperative.
bindian
Super Member
Curly Dave,
Isn't letting the batteries get too low ...........operator error?
How is the JD 110 working out for you?
hugs, Brandi
