Stuck in the pond

[Atypical_decorum]

I had my winch on, both times that I got badly stuck. Both times it was useless. The second time it was part of the problem as it was dragging on the ground. I had to drop it and drag it out of the way with my ATV winch before I could back out, pushing with the bucket at the same time.

Snatch blocks?

 

[MH8675309]

Like Clint said - A mans got to know his limitations

 

[ptsg]

AG TIRES!
Those R-4’s are useless

So true. I've drove through mud with my tractor. It was deep enough that it was basically plowing the mud with the front axle. The tractor kept on going without any issues and I don't even have R1 radials.

A couple days ago, a video popped up on Facebook where two compact 35hp tractors with R4s were struggling so hard to pull a trailer stuck in mud. The first thought that came to my mind was: "Man, two tractors with R4 aren't worth a single one with R1." Those things spin if you look at it the wrong way.

 

[MoKelly]

We don’t know what the difference would been for the OP. He may also have been able to walk right out of that mud.

R-1’s MUCH better than R-4’s in mud though.

Outside of using a tractor on pavement a lot, I cannot fathom why people buy a 4 wheel drive tractor, then slap useless tires on them that literally steal traction away from the tractor.

Many may laugh at me, but I actually have turf tires on my tractor.

Why - because the vast majority of my work is mowing, mulching, brushing, hard scape and other chores for yards and gardens and general landscape. They work fine and do no damage to the grass or ground. The zero turn does more damage!

I really have little on my acreage where I could get stuck. I don’t take the tractor into the woods or down by the river. Really no reason.

I’ve gotten my 4 wheeler stuck a time or two in mud but that is what the winch is for.

Then again - I don’t use the tractor for large scale farming like many on this forum.

 

[MoKelly]

Like Clint said - A mans got to know his limitations

But Clint had no limitations!!!

 

[IndyIan]

Although to be fair, Ag's spinning backwards do pack up with mud as well... Going forwards though, I have been wheel barrowing(put it in N and pick up the back end) an old car in the spring, and the front axle was dragging in the mud and the tractor just kept going! I was very surprised I didn't get stopped, but I guess there was something firm down there that the tires found. They do clear mud out the tread very well when going forwards.

 

[GeneV]

I've had similar experiences with both a garden tractor and my stander mower. In my case, the muskrats dig tunnels around my pond, so I've fallen into those. Last time it happened on my mower, I didn't bother getting the Massey, but instead got myself out by hooking a come-along to a nearby tree, and having my wife work that as I rode myself out.

 

[Atypical_decorum]

So true. I've drove through mud with my tractor. It was deep enough that it was basically plowing the mud with the front axle. The tractor kept on going without any issues and I don't even have R1 radials.

A couple days ago, a video popped up on Facebook where two compact 35hp tractors with R4s were struggling so hard to pull a trailer stuck in mud. The first thought that came to my mind was: "Man, two tractors with R4 aren't worth a single one with R1." Those things spin if you look at it the wrong way.

What kinda tractor do you have?

 

[etpm]

When I first got my Case 580CK backhoe I took it into the woods to dig holes for a septic drain field test. I bought the machine to put in a septic system even though I had never even sat on a backhoe and knew nothing about septic systems other than the obvious. I got that Case stuck good. On a slope. Using the loader and the hoe I was able to make it pull itself out of the woods. It would have gone faster if I had more than 2 hours experience. Though not a 4 wheel drive machine, and also one without a diff lock, I was able to get it unstuck.

 

[LouNY]

Glad you got your tractor out of the mud.
I hate to see critters being allowed to have access to a pond.
They will mush the banks and edges down and make for a swampy muddy mess.

 

[ptsg]

What kinda tractor do you have?

Branson F36Rn. 35hp compact tractor.

 

[MAX-24-Dean]

Many may laugh at me, but I actually have turf tires on my tractor.

Why - because the vast majority of my work is mowing, mulching, brushing, hard scape and other chores for yards and gardens and general landscape. They work fine and do no damage to the grass or ground. The zero turn does more damage!

I really have little on my acreage where I could get stuck. I don’t take the tractor into the woods or down by the river. Really no reason.

I’ve gotten my 4 wheeler stuck a time or two in mud but that is what the winch is for.

Then again - I don’t use the tractor for large scale farming like many on this forum.

Deciding on the correct tire for the application is more important than a lot of people give much thought to.
I won't laugh at you for the turf tires. I use them on a golf course tractor I operate occassionally.

 

[HawkinsHollow]

Happens the to best of us!! I had only used my tractor 10 hours when I took it on one of my steeper woods roads that had a bit of a mess at the bottom, got it down but I didn't get it back out. Had to clear some stumps and fill in some spots with old concrete.

 

[Hay Dude]

Many may laugh at me, but I actually have turf tires on my tractor.

Why - because the vast majority of my work is mowing, mulching, brushing, hard scape and other chores for yards and gardens and general landscape. They work fine and do no damage to the grass or ground. The zero turn does more damage!

I really have little on my acreage where I could get stuck. I don’t take the tractor into the woods or down by the river. Really no reason.

I’ve gotten my 4 wheeler stuck a time or two in mud but that is what the winch is for.

Then again - I don’t use the tractor for large scale farming like many on this forum.

Not at all.
Run what makes sense for you.
I ride or die with R-1’s.

 

[Jstpssng]

Snatch blocks?

The winch would have needed to be strong enough to lift the rears clear from the mud.

 

[Atypical_decorum]

The winch would have needed to be strong enough to lift the rears clear from the mud.

A lot of snatch blocks???

 

[Fuddyduddy1952]

I did that 60 years ago with Grandad's Farmall mowing too close to lake. All it takes is one revolution of mud in tires and you have drag slicks regardless of tread. We were close to a tractor dealership and owner felt sorry for the kid!. He used a '30s John Deere 2 cylinder, large chain. Sounded like engine was running about 300 rpm (putt-putt-putt)...never changed pitch. Dragged it out & I forgot leaving it in gear!

 

[Atypical_decorum]

I did that 60 years ago with Grandad's Farmall mowing too close to lake. All it takes is one revolution of mud in tires and you have drag slicks regardless of tread. We were close to a tractor dealership and owner felt sorry for the kid!

. He used a '30s John Deere 2 cylinder, large chain. Sounded like engine was running about 300 rpm (putt-putt-putt)...never changed pitch. Dragged it out & I forgot leaving it in gear!

My dad has a number old tractors from that time frame. You're not kidding they don't break a sweat often. One of his little 20hp tractors weighs about the same as my 100hp tractor.

 

[etpm]

My dad has a number old tractors from that time frame. You're not kidding they don't break a sweat often. One of his little 20hp tractors weighs about the same as my 100hp tractor.

I am a real machine nut and really appreciate what folks built a century or more ago. Huge steam engines with remarkably low horsepower. And they used these steam powered tractors in the fields! Then the first internal combustion tractors, while much lighter than their steam predecessors, still were almost too heavy to believe. Of course the torque was very high just because of the way the engines were built with large diameter pistons and long strokes, and the huge flywheels had, of course, huge amounts of energy potential when spun up. Low horsepower but then they moved slow. Engine designers were just learning what worked and how it worked.
Eric

 

[4570Man]

R-1’s don’t have to be “soft squishy” they can be had with stiff sidewalls and inflated with air pressure to make them stiffer. I do loader work with my R-1’s in the 3 ton range and the tires are excellent.


That’s just an assumption because the R-1’s would give you a much higher chance to be out of the mud before you ever get stuck in the first place.

I have run full size backhoes with R-4’s and they get stuck easily in 4WD. I‘ve also run R-1’s and R-4’s on farm size tractors.

Night & day difference.

A full size backhoe weighs substantially more than a farm tractor. Of course they get stuck worse. All R4 a aren’t equal either. Some have huge block treads with maybe an inch between them. Those are pretty useless. Others have fairly skinny lugs with a big gap between them that are pretty comparable to R-1s.