Stuck?

[fdmars]

I vote "Real Stuck"

 

[trook]

Thanks, guys.

The reality is that these things happen. It's that simple. Many times, it happens so fast, you are unable to react before it's too late.

As much as I wish I was wrong, I seriously doubt this will be the last time I stick a tractor. I'm simply on one too much and sometimes work in difficult terrain.

I wanted to share my situation so y'all could get a good laugh, see a cool pic and hopefully learn a little something in the process.

So far the only damage is $21.40 to have my tire placed back onto the rim. I don't think anything else is damaged, but I will not know for sure until I get the tire back on and start using the machine.

 

[retiredmgn]

1. "I tied a chain through the rear left tire and wheel. I hooked the end of the chain onto itself on the front of the tire, near the ground, and the "knot" was as tight as I could get it."

Got it. New visual has been installed. :thumbsup:
When I would read of this technique previously I thought what was being explained was to thread chain through a hole in the rim then back out through an opposite hole in the rim. As any dolt can see this would only result in balling the chain up against the rim. It made me less than enthusiastic about trying it.

2. "and after much swearing"
This part, I have mastery over. I don't go to church so my usage often is something less than socially acceptable but I'm good with that.

3. "fairly "square" to the tree. I believe this was the major factor because I was able to keep the chain centered onto the tire and it pulled itself in a straight line."
This has been another stumbling block for me. I ponder the likely hood of the chain riding perfectly center of a crowned, muddy, greasy, round object. I really like the idea of the tractor pulling itself out but the logistics seem in favor of failure. In thinking back to the thread on 'sippin' the treads of a tire I wonder if one could 'sip' a groove through the treads around the center circumference of the tire - creating a channel for the chain.

When I think, "What would I do in this situation?" I envision ending up as the tractor on youtube with a sapling chained to the rear wheel. Gotta admire the ingenuity - in the words of Mr. Spock. "Crude but effective".

Nelson

edit - this was clever. Making note to self
"I lowered the FEL and placed the flat bottom of the bucket to the ground as far as it would go to help get the front right tire out of the hole and to allow the front end to "slide" better."

 

[trook]

In thinking back to the thread on 'sippin' the treads of a tire I wonder if one could 'sip' a groove through the treads around the center circumference of the tire - creating a channel for the chain.

 

[Thomas]

Yep that's stuck and how much mud did you get on yourself may the next time be less but there shall be next time.

 

[charleyfarmall]

R1's would have helped but not necessarily solved this. My wife buried a tractor this deep on me once. The advantage I had was that both front and rear diffs could be locked so I had true 4wd. That plus the R1's and I was able to creep out of the mud pit.

 

[trook]

In thinking back to the thread on 'sippin' the treads of a tire I wonder if one could 'sip' a groove through the treads around the center circumference of the tire - creating a channel for the chain.

I'm not familiar with this thread. I'll have to see if I can locate it. As you correctly stated, if the tire tread is not over the center of the chain as it travels to the tree, the chain will start to wrap around the tread, but it will probably come off the edge before the tire can make one complete revolution. However, if you can move a foot or so, then reposition the chain, I believe you can make progress.

The best situation is for the length of chain between the tire and tree to be in a perfect line so that the chain will stay in the middle of the tire. Then, one complete revolution of the rear tire will move you several feet.

 

[retiredmgn]

In thinking back to the thread on 'sippin' the treads of a tire I wonder if one could 'sip' a groove through the treads around the center circumference of the tire - creating a channel for the chain.

I'm not familiar with this thread. I'll have to see if I can locate it. As you correctly stated, if the tire tread is not over the center of the chain as it travels to the tree, the chain will start to wrap around the tread, but it will probably come off the edge before the tire can make one complete revolution. However, if you can move a foot or so, then reposition the chain, I believe you can make progress.

The best situation is for the length of chain between the tire and tree to be in a perfect line so that the chain will stay in the middle of the tire. Then, one complete revolution of the rear tire will move you several feet.

Here. Exact terminolgy escapes me at times.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/snow-removal/193438-cutting-groving-siping-r-4-a.html

 

[VTtractorguy]

It qualifies more as "Stupid" than stuck.
That was unfair, I should have said "uneducated".

You need to learn to "Read" vegetation.
Mud, muck, swamp, wet areas are very predictable - just don't GO there.
(-:

Trook, there is nothing 'stupid' about what happened. I'm sure it happened so fast that you had no time to react. Been there... done that... I know what you mean about mud being hidden and once you're in, you're in. Hey, I've even managed to get my X540 stuck three times up to the deck at its highest position in mud in our back field. I had to use a block of wood and my car jack under the front and back of the frame to lift the tractor up. I then put boards under the wheels to give it something to walk out on. What a mess.

Your method of getting your tractor out was brilliant!

Nice machine too! Hope it is back to normal soon.

 

[mdelmarcelle]

Everyone gets stuck once in a while. It takes guts to share pics of it on a tractor forum!

I've been stuck before and once a truck tried pulling me out. The tractor was an old Massey Harris 50 (1950's 2wd tractor, bout 4000lbs I'm guessing), stuck up to its belly. The truck didn't even wiggle the tractor.

 

[k0ua]

Everyone gets stuck once in a while. It takes guts to share pics of it on a tractor forum!

I've been stuck before and once a truck tried pulling me out. The tractor was an old Massey Harris 50 (1950's 2wd tractor, bout 4000lbs I'm guessing), stuck up to its belly. The truck didn't even wiggle the tractor.

I got stuck once really good, in a long 2360, 2wd R1 tires. Front tires disappeared in the muck, right rear really down to axle, left rear some better. I gave up after the wife and I put a large steel refrigerator door down under the FEL and the FEL pushed it 2 foot into the muck and never even raised the 2 front wheels very much. I walked over to the neighbors, (thats how you know you are stuck, you have to get off and walk:laughing
I was a 2 week tractor owner at the time, (many many years ago) and he was older and wiser. He said "aw we can get it out" he told me to get my ford explorer and a 50 foot cable, on a steep downhill grade at 90 degrees to the tractor. The Ford had very dry footing and was nose down many degrees. he hooked the cable to the loader frame on the tractor at the front, got on, fired it up and told me to proceed downhill. He applied "hard right rudder" on the split brake and turned the wheels downhill. the explorer slowley "twisted" the tractor 90 degrees and when it was lined up downhill he applied a little more power and it jumped up out of the muck. I could not believe it, how easy it was to get out, with the proper technique. The wife and I had only worked for about 2 hours with lumber and bricks and rocks. which all became part of the muck, and along with the refer door, are probably still there to this day,.

James K0UA

 

[9973720wb19]

I got stuck once and had to call a tow truck to pull me out. he mentioned that he needed to say on the pavement - which he was able to do. knowing i was lucky that time, the next day, i ordered a 9000 pound winch for my F250 with a quick hitch to the receiver. while i don't want to get stuck in the mud again...i'd like to try it out. anyone have a winch for their pickup?

 

[VTtractorguy]

Everyone gets stuck once in a while. It takes guts to share pics of it on a tractor forum!

I've been stuck before and once a truck tried pulling me out. The tractor was an old Massey Harris 50 (1950's 2wd tractor, bout 4000lbs I'm guessing), stuck up to its belly. The truck didn't even wiggle the tractor.

How did you get it out?

 

[boggen]

it has been a while. i want to say 1 to 2 months ago. on someones elses stuck thread. someone gave a 1 to 10 stuck rank 10 being really really stuck. i think i came out to be 6 or 7 or was 7 or 8 i want to say you came out to be about the same i have been on this scale.

a few folks spoke up of them breaking out dozers and cranes to get them unstuck.

been there done that, ya gotta start and learn some place, but even then stuff still happens. ya either out there doing it, or ya in the chair typing it, sadly at moment all i can do is be typing it. on hopefully soon be back at it. and hopefully not back here stating woops!

 

[Reg]

Everyone gets stuck once in a while. It takes guts to share pics of it on a tractor forum!

I've been stuck before and once a truck tried pulling me out. The tractor was an old Massey Harris 50 (1950's 2wd tractor, bout 4000lbs I'm guessing), stuck up to its belly. The truck didn't even wiggle the tractor.

Not "Everyone".
Not EVERY carpenter feeds their hands into a spinning saw blade, or fires nails into their feet.
SOME do, but MANY do NOT !
The careful ones generally do not.

I don't accept that accidents are inevitable - and getting stuck is a mild form of accident.

 

[hizoot]

:laughing::laughing::laughing:
I would equate getting stuck more to a carpenter mis-measuring a board cut or getting a splinter than cutting off fingers. Not a maiming accident. But ....I am not "all knowing"

 

[jwinner]

Not "Everyone".
Not EVERY carpenter feeds their hands into a spinning saw blade, or fires nails into their feet.
SOME do, but MANY do NOT !
The careful ones generally do not.

I don't accept that accidents are inevitable - and getting stuck is a mild form of accident.

I didn't think too much of your comments the first couple of times - but nails into feet? Saw blades?? Seriously? Do you realize some people intentionally take vehicles into the mud and get them stuck for fun? To the OP, don't pay any attention to this guy. If all that results is a muddy man toy err I mean tractor, and no severed fingers, by all means, learn by doing. Not everyone was born knowing everything like that guy up there...

Jamie

 

[trook]

I didn't think too much of your comments the first couple of times - but nails into feet? Saw blades?? Seriously? Do you realize some people intentionally take vehicles into the mud and get them stuck for fun? To the OP, don't pay any attention to this guy. If all that results is a muddy man toy err I mean tractor, and no severed fingers, by all means, learn by doing. Not everyone was born knowing everything like that guy up there...

Jamie

Yeah, I am beginning to think he may have some issues :laughing::laughing:

 

[donn12]

Not "Everyone".
Not EVERY carpenter feeds their hands into a spinning saw blade, or fires nails into their feet.
SOME do, but MANY do NOT !
The careful ones generally do not.

I don't accept that accidents are inevitable - and getting stuck is a mild form of accident.

I don't know if you realize how you are coming across here. Really smart people don't feel the need to prove they are smart to total strangers on the internet, especially multiple times. It does not say much if this type of all knowing criticism makes you feel better about yourself. I got my ZTR stuck in a muddy spot a couple of weeks ago. Do you think I am an idiot because of this? Do you think if you call me an idiot and proclaim that you wouldn't have gotten stuck (and never have) that most people will think that you are smart?