Studs for snow plowing

[fishhead]

I've had problems with windy-ridge before. Very disorganized!

I have only had 1 transaction there but it was quite satisfactory. Bummer that you have had issues. Love the chains though

 

[Rustyiron]

Yes I've dealt with them dozens of times without issues, including ordering.
They are where I've mostly bought studs and tire chains and parts but also winch cable and other hard to find "stuff".

 

[oldpilot]

Southern living? I've never heard of studded tractor tires, though studded snow tires on cars used to be popular here in NH. (And my daughter in Alaska swears by them.) I used tractor chains on asphalt from 1968 to 1982, and on some asphalt / mostly gravel since 1982, and my neighbors likewise. I've never heard of tire chains digging up anyone's driveway! I'm on my third set now. The first set belonged to my father-in-law; the second I got from tirechain.com; and the third from Amazon but actually still tirechain.com (saved on shipping, plus 5% cashback).

 

[Rustyiron]

Pilot they are studs that you add, they simply screw into the lugs. I've never heard of a "factory" studded tractor tire either.

 

[Fielding]

Step one reduce your rear tires pressure until the contact surface is flat.

Then get your ballast figured out.

Chains are only needed on crazy slopes like in the mountains, they work but are a pain. On the flat its all about ballast and contact.

Studs sounds like a very expensive procedure that will cause issues all summer.

 

[LouNY]

Step one reduce your rear tires pressure until the contact surface is flat.

Then get your ballast figured out.

Chains are only needed on crazy slopes like in the mountains, they work but are a pain. On the flat its all about ballast and contact.

Studs sounds like a very expensive procedure that will cause issues all summer.

Step 1 is good,
2 so so,
3 No idea were you live or the conditions there or what you do, but;
chains can be livesavers many times.
Ballast can only do so much especially in wet heavy snow or ice.

 

[fruitcakesa]

I spend 100% of my tractor time either off road or on gravel. Chains are essential once the snow flies or the mud looms.
In drier times, even on the steep, hilly country that I call home, just the ballasted R1's are fine.

 

[dennis103]

I got chains with my tractor and snow blower set up. I used them the first year, but the chains chipped my cement going in and out of the garage and leave gouges in the asphalt where they spin. The last 2 years I haven't used the chains when snow blowing and have no problems with traction. If I switch to the bucket to move a snow bank I need the chains. With the chains (rear only) no traction problems. The ground under me will chip away as I spin though.

 

[Fielding]

Step 1 is good,
2 so so,
3 No idea were you live or the conditions there or what you do, but;
chains can be livesavers many times.
Ballast can only do so much especially in wet heavy snow or ice.

Ballast is hugely important, If your too light you will just spin your tires. On a road compaction is not an issue, be as Heavy as practical.

its much easier to move 10,000lbs of snow, if you weigh that much or more to start with. Cast iron weights are not sold as fashion accessories. Its also covered in your tractors manual.

I am from Northern Canada, lots of snow and ice.

 

[LouNY]

How's this 20,000+ pounds with 4wd and R1 Radials vs 6000 pounds on R1 bias plys with chains on snow and ice.

A 656 with Euro studded chains against an IH Magnum in 4wd sorry for the video quality my brother took it with an old phone.
I've also see those 20,000 pound tractors just turn wet snow into ice under the tires and start spinning backwards.

 

[billypumper]

Not sure about studs on tractor tires, but have always been told that pushing snow a turf style tire gets better traction on snow where as an R4 lug style tire is good in mud, turf tires come in some very big sizes for tractors now for medium size tractors

 

[Rustyiron]

Not sure about studs on tractor tires, but have always been told that pushing snow a turf style tire gets better traction on snow where as an R4 lug style tire is good in mud, turf tires come in some very big sizes for tractors now for medium size tractors

And then there's the guys who have bought a tire grooving tool and have good results.
The multiple "edges" seem to be key in certain conditions.
That's a big part of the equation, there's more "types" of snow than there is types of beer. Not counting what's under the snow.

 

[mikester]

Has anyone here made the decision to install studs rather than chains on the rear tractor tires for snowplowing? I have about 800' of a shale driveway.
Good choice or regret it.? Studs would cost aprox. $400.00

I just installed studs on my front R4's and posted some pics on the other forum

Wheel Studs vs Chains

I just got my Marrkey M6x20 wheel studs from Amazon, $50 for 100 studs. Why did I go with studs instead of chains? a. I have chains but I hate them. I use double ladders on my fronts only when it gets icy and I loose steering traction. They make a rough ride and tend to walk a little and I'm...

www.orangetractortalks.com

 

[seville009]

I just installed studs on my front R4's and posted some pics on the other forum

Wheel Studs vs Chains

I just got my Marrkey M6x20 wheel studs from Amazon, $50 for 100 studs. Why did I go with studs instead of chains? a. I have chains but I hate them. I use double ladders on my fronts only when it gets icy and I loose steering traction. They make a rough ride and tend to walk a little and I'm...

www.orangetractortalks.com

interesting.....would like to hear how they work once you're able to try them out.

I'd think that you would need a few more studs in each tire so that more than one stud would be making contact. I'm thinking of studded car tires - going from just memory, but I think on each tire maybe three or four studs on each tire are making contact at the same time.

worse case is that you can just add more studs if they still slide too much.

 

[Fielding]

The magnum would be lucky to have liquid in the rear. The way its currently set up its rears light and requires an implement to keep the rear down. Physics in action.

Learn how ballast works and you are glued to the ground.

 

[greenrider1]

If you have hills and ice chains are needed. I run OFA EKO studded chains on my rear R4's and rarely need 4x4. I haul all my firewood out of the woods in the winter and have no issues with traction on glare ice or hard snow pack. Used conveyor belting from gravel pits works great to protect garage floors.

 

[billypumper]

Never have used studs or chains, have APT Carlisle tires on small tractor , 7 ft blade on front rear counter weight on back, about 75 lbs more than front blade, never have any problems pushing snow, fully tilt blade to the left or right which keeps tires within blade width, no matter how deep it gets, have no problems, stay on top of the situation at all times, don't wait till it's done snowing to start.

 

[mikester]

interesting.....would like to hear how they work once you're able to try them out.

I'd think that you would need a few more studs in each tire so that more than one stud would be making contact. I'm thinking of studded car tires - going from just memory, but I think on each tire maybe three or four studs on each tire are making contact at the same time.

worse case is that you can just add more studs if they still slide too much.

I just posted my review on the other forum. They work surprisingly well, I just ordered a set of M6x18mm for my rear tires. Only $39/100 studs.

The single row did better than I expected. I will add a second row in the future after the first set wears down. I'm planning to leave them in all season long.

 

[Komrade]

If you have hills and ice chains are needed. I run OFA EKO studded chains on my rear R4's and rarely need 4x4.

Can you comment further on chains vs studs on hills? I have Hills.. WV Mountain type of hills (up to 30%+).. I've seen you response in my other snow thread (have studded chains currently), but would like to understand your insight. I am guessing it's more likely studs get 'ripped out' on the hills, but studs should get plenty of stress pushing large amounts of snow on flat surfaces as well.

 

[PBinWA]

Can you comment further on chains vs studs on hills? I have Hills.. WV Mountain type of hills (up to 30%+).. I've seen you response in my other snow thread (have studded chains currently), but would like to understand your insight. I am guessing it's more likely studs get 'ripped out' on the hills, but studs should get plenty of stress pushing large amounts of snow on flat surfaces as well.

Studs work on hills up to a point but chains work better. Chains on asphalt on hills will tear up the asphalt if the tires do start spinning. The goal is to not let tires spin but sometimes you can't always meet all the goals.