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If you hook an AC welder to a DC generator will it still put out AC to the weld. I hooked my old lincoln buzz box to my pto generator and the meld seemed smother than usual. Is it my crazy idea or true? If not how would an AC welder turn DC into AC?:confused3:
 
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An AC welder might turn DC into SMOKE, but if you're talking about an older transformer welder, that's about ALL that would happen - Transformers work by CHANGING current passing thru their windings - if you put straight DC into those windings, they will have less "resistance" (really, impedance) than they do when connected to AC, and the windings will most likely burn up.

The good news is, it's likely your PTO generator may be putting out AC anyway - at least I hope so, or your welder may not work for long... Steve
 
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Your PTO generator might have smoother power than your house current but highly doubt it puts out DC current. You need a rectifier to change AC to DC. Engine drive welders generally run smoother than electric transformers because the input power is consistent.
 
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If you hook an AC welder to a DC generator will it still put out AC to the weld. I hooked my old lincoln buzz box to my pto generator and the meld seemed smother than usual. Is it my crazy idea or true? If not how would an AC welder turn DC into AC?:confused3:

Where did you get the idea you PTO generator has DC output? It most assuredly is not.
 
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If you have a multi-function ohm meter just check the AC output and then check the DC output. It won't have both. Even simpler, plug in a house lamp (or similar) and see if it lights.

Plus, the plug on the 220V Lincoln buzz box won't fit into any DC socket.

And 99.9% odds that it is AC.
 
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I told you it was a stupid question. Thanks for the info. I have been welding with a little 110 dc china made welder that proves that dc is not always better, but I would hate to think what it would weld like if it was ac. This old buzz box, the same one I learned to weld on in about 1960, welds so much smoother hooked to the gen. than the little dc it got me to thinking. Thanks again Ed
 
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If you hadn't asked it, it would've been a stupid question - but you DID, and you know more today than you did yesterday, so it was a SMART question.

Goes along with my basic philosophy - "Any day I LEARN something (especially with no loss of body parts) it's been a GOOD day" :D ...Steve
 
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[QUOTE=Even simpler, plug in a house lamp (or similar) and see if it lights.

A regular incandescent lamp will probably work on DC. Terry
 
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You're right. I was only thinking about plugging in to my SA 200. I knew I should have had my coffee first. :)

Terry
 
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Of course an incandescent lamp will work fine on either AC or DC of the correct voltage. A lot of older radio equipment would work on either AC or DC. here are some fun facts about DC transmission of power to the home:

Some cities continued to use DC well into the 20th century. For example, central Helsinki had a DC network until the late 1940s, and Stockholm lost its dwindling DC network as late as the 1970s. A mercury arc valve rectifier station could convert AC to DC where networks were still used. Parts of Boston, Massachusetts along Beacon Street and Commonwealth Avenue still used 110 volts DC in the 1960s, causing the destruction of many small appliances (typically hair dryers and phonographs) used by Boston University students, who ignored warnings about the electricity supply. New York City's electric utility company, Consolidated Edison, continued to supply direct current to customers who had adopted it early in the twentieth century, mainly for elevators. The New Yorker Hotel, constructed in 1929, had a large direct-current power plant and did not convert fully to alternating-current service until well into the 1960s.[37] This was the building in which AC pioneer Nikola Tesla spent his last years, and where he died in 1943. In January 1998, Consolidated Edison started to eliminate DC service. At that time there were 4,600 DC customers. By 2006, there were only 60 customers using DC service, and on November 14, 2007, the last direct-current distribution by Con Edison was shut down. Customers still using DC were provided with on-site AC to DC rectifiers
 

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