Stupid workplace safety rules

/ Stupid workplace safety rules #61  
I'm working on this BS Rules Requirement as I type this. I just received a WARNING, that I'm not taking LONG ENOUGH to go through the work. This is despite the fact that I've answered every question correctly!

Why is it that we have to all achieve the lowest common denominator in order to move forward!

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/ Stupid workplace safety rules #62  
I'm working on this BS Rules Requirement as I type this. I just received a WARNING, that I'm not taking LONG ENOUGH to go through the work. This is despite the fact that I've answered every question correctly!

Why is it that we have to all achieve the lowest common denominator in order to move forward!

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I feel for you. They never take into account that some people can read and process much faster then other people. I get those kind of tests at work but thankfully no time constraints. I've done them so many times now, I keep hitting next, fast forward through the videos to get to the tests. :cool2:
 
/ Stupid workplace safety rules #63  
I'm working on this BS Rules Requirement as I type this. I just received a WARNING, that I'm not taking LONG ENOUGH to go through the work. This is despite the fact that I've answered every question correctly!

Why is it that we have to all achieve the lowest common denominator in order to move forward!

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Yep... resistance is futile... we are Borg or something like that.

Often times training will have a mandated number of hours to fulfill the statutory requirement...

New hires spend 3 days mostly in front of a computer screen going through module after module... there are a few pearls of wisdom or sometimes a different prospective... but most I find mind numbing as in the above is on ****** harassment in the work place and most of that good be summed up as having good manners...
 
/ Stupid workplace safety rules #64  
I know an electrician who always dismissed safety. One day he was working a hot primary feed in a hospital and was wrapping up the job, taking his safety gloves off when his elbow hit a sharp screw on the compartment door behind him. His reflexes funny-boned his hand back onto the primary feed.

Fortunately this happened in a hospiatal and they responded ASAP. They worked him over and could not get a pulse and the lead was considering him dead and calling off the resuscitation. One of the responders did not give up and brought him back....

These days he is famous for his safety talks
 
/ Stupid workplace safety rules #65  
I have to take all those classes on my time, not company time.
 
/ Stupid workplace safety rules #66  
Since we have been acquired it is ALL on company time... the difference from being a community based stand alone facility and one in a 100,000 employee organization is mind boggling...

When asked... I was told a lot of the mandatory instruction has come about as the result of lawsuits and fines and crafted by lawyers to protect the company...

I have found several instances where the module does not apply, is out of date or flat out wrong and mentioned it... the reaction has been just complete as assigned... no interest in re-hashing or updating from the bottom up... there are consultants and the legal team that decide from the top down.
 
/ Stupid workplace safety rules #67  
I didn't make it. So I sent an email to my HR department with a harassment complaint concerning its assumption as to my inability to perform at my ability. I requested a formal assessment concerning this module's harassment of my feelings and ability to read, comprehend, and respond.
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/ Stupid workplace safety rules #68  
I didn't make it. So I sent an email to my HR department with a harassment complaint concerning its assumption as to my inability to perform at my ability. I requested a formal assessment concerning this module's harassment of my feelings and ability to read, comprehend, and respond.
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I got a 'sick feeling in my throat' just imagining having to go through that online training. I witnessed the beginning of this process, almost ten years ago. First it was a couple of 'modules' and every year more sections/departments piled onto the bandwagon. Thankfully I'm retired, although if I were to be recalled (I'm still in the Naval Reserve) I'd probably need to spend 3 days solid just going through this crap.

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Personally, I'd blame Sheila (from your first screen capture)... she always was looking for everyone to toe the line and would dob anyone in who didn't.

Nancy sounds nice... and looks like she can share a joke too. :)
 
/ Stupid workplace safety rules #69  
WOW that's crazy>>
I had a similar experience ONCE w/ a LIVE person..
I had to do a job at a Carbon making facility once.. had to read & comprehend 3 pages of safety rules.. before entering plant..
I can "speed read" so it took me all of 10 seconds.. Finger going from side to side, pages flipping.. all the while the "lady" was standing there in disgust.. I said, "I'm ready".. She snapped back, "YOU DIDNT READ THAT".. I said, "UM, yes ma'am I DID read that"..
She started "quizzing me" about the horn blasts & what they mean & where to go.. I answered ALL of them correctly..
She was dumbfounded.. but thankfully she let me pass to do my work..
I can see WHY she was skeptical.. with the type of workers they had at that plant.. it would have taken them hours to just READ IT, let alone comprehend it..
 
/ Stupid workplace safety rules #70  
Since we have been acquired it is ALL on company time... the difference from being a community based stand alone facility and one in a 100,000 employee organization is mind boggling...

When asked... I was told a lot of the mandatory instruction has come about as the result of lawsuits and fines and crafted by lawyers to protect the company...

I have found several instances where the module does not apply, is out of date or flat out wrong and mentioned it... the reaction has been just complete as assigned... no interest in re-hashing or updating from the bottom up... there are consultants and the legal team that decide from the top down.

I happen to work for a specialty division of our company. We had some mandatory training we had to do pertaining to our division after the company I worked for was bought out. These modules were produced years ago and didn't even pertain to the equipment we used. Plus 3/4 of the information was flat out wrong. Everyone in our division was required to do them and pass the test at the end of each module. The 8 Modules took 2 days to complete and were painful. :eek:

The poor safety directors with the company were swamped with emails from our division blasting these modules and picking them apart :D Last I heard, they are supposed to be redoing the modules with the current equipment and key people in the division doing the editing:)
 
/ Stupid workplace safety rules #71  
Since we have been acquired it is ALL on company time... the difference from being a community based stand alone facility and one in a 100,000 employee organization is mind boggling...

When asked... I was told a lot of the mandatory instruction has come about as the result of lawsuits and fines and crafted by lawyers to protect the company...

I have found several instances where the module does not apply, is out of date or flat out wrong and mentioned it... the reaction has been just complete as assigned... no interest in re-hashing or updating from the bottom up... there are consultants and the legal team that decide from the top down.

It's all just legal butt-covering. Simply so the next time they get sued they can say "see, we tried". Either that, or just complying with a prior lawsuit that mandated that they do XYZ to avoid it in the future. Mostly not pertinent or useful stuff. Lawyers justifying their existence.
 
/ Stupid workplace safety rules #72  
I filed a formal complaint with HR. The module was on harassment, so I felt well versed. I'll let you know how it goes.
 
/ Stupid workplace safety rules #73  
I'm working on this BS Rules Requirement as I type this. I just received a WARNING, that I'm not taking LONG ENOUGH to go through the work. This is despite the fact that I've answered every question correctly!

Why is it that we have to all achieve the lowest common denominator in order to move forward!

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Years ago I hauled flatbed freight out of Canada to points along I-5. At one of the border brokerage offices in Blaine they 2 signs posted on the wall behind the (mostly female) clerks who typed up the paperwork needed to clear customs. The first read "WARNING: ****** HARASSMENT WILL not BE REPORTED, however, it will be Graded."

The second sign was brilliant in its truthfulness. "Everyone brings joy to this office, some when they enter, others when they leave."

The women had to be thick skinned because too many truck drivers were too thick headed to understand the limits of decency and courtesy.
 
/ Stupid workplace safety rules #74  
I didn't make it. So I sent an email to my HR department with a harassment complaint concerning its assumption as to my inability to perform at my ability. I requested a formal assessment concerning this module's harassment of my feelings and ability to read, comprehend, and respond.
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Wow. That's a new one. We have periodic online "training" programs as well at our work. Many people blow through them as fast as possible by just clicking next as soon as you can until you hit some quiz midway or at the end. They tell you the time you took, but it never says you were too fast or too slow. We have kinda wondered if they would do something like that in the future. One of our training systems does have a timer so you can't click next immediately when the page comes up, but they are usually only a couple seconds or so.
 
/ Stupid workplace safety rules #75  
I read something in print recently, on a related topic. I thought it summed things up well....

"In the past, common sense was expected and appreciated. Now it is criminalized."

Rgds, D.
 
/ Stupid workplace safety rules #76  
I have to take a variety of continuing education and education classes via a couple of different websites.

One website penalizes you for being a fast reader and forces you to spend a certain amount of time on each page/section. :rolleyes: Sooo, what everyone does is start the page/section and then go do something else to let the timer pass THEN read and go to the next page/section. The problem with this stupidity is that one looses the continuity of reading at ones own pace. Just flat out dumb.

Another website requires a X hours to take the class. The time starts when you take a test on the content you are about to take. Once the pretest is done the clock has started so I take the pretest and come back a week or so later and finish the class at my own pace. The %^&*() frustrating thing is that sometimes I have NOT done this, did the pretest, then the class, gotten 100% but I had failed to spent the X amount of time so I had to do the test again. :confused3::shocked::eek::mad::mad::mad: STUPID STUPID STUPID.

What makes it even more idiotic is that some of these classes we have to take every year. Frankly, if I can't pass the pretest after all of these years, I should not be working that position. I SHOULD pass the class on the pretest and it SHOULD not take any time.

Later,
Dan
 
/ Stupid workplace safety rules #77  
So much of this is lawyer driven as well.

I just read that Disney is going to inspect every room at their resorts each day. The Do Not Disturb signs have been replaced with Occupied or some such. This is an obvious knee jerk reaction to what happened in Las Vegas and is a result of lawyers. If someone wants to repeat Las Vegas at Disney, they will just fill up the room when they arrive or the day they wish to start the attack. The maid "inspecting" the room is not going to stop an event.

Furthermore this just means there will be more thefts from the staff. It also implies that the staff will be search rooms, drawers, and suitcases. If not, what is the point? If they are going to do this, I can see the lawsuits happening.

For years now, Disney has been searching bags, back packs, strollers, etc when one enters the parks which has caused huge lines and masses of people waiting in line for the search. Kinda ironic that the searches have made people MORE vulnerable to attack. This year, to make it "safer," Disney added metal detectors so there are now two security lines one has to pass through before finally getting into a final line to get into the park. :rolleyes: What the three lines have done is made for a huge mass of people contained in small areas at the entrance to each park. This is such an obvious target...

The best spin I can put on this is that Disney has done the math and figure that an attack in the mass of people at the entrance would result in less casualties than a bomb on a ride such as space mountain. :confused3: Certainly the blast will be out in the open vs confined which should minimize losses but I really wonder. I can easily think of ways to make that assumption false.

Tower of Terror does not scare me, well not much, :laughing::laughing::laughing: but standing in the mass of people waiting to get into the park makes me more the nervous. :eek:

But Disney's lawyers can say hey we tried.

Later,
Dan
 
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#78  
Speaking to our HR manager (who gets quite frustrated with all the PC) about a managerial role that is coming up, he told me that I wouldn't qualify due to lack of education, eyebrows raised a little I asked what he meant, to apply you have to meet the criteria set out which is a High School graduation (we call it HSC) followed by a relevant tertiary qualification.
I never did the HSC as I went to trade school before the exam year as did a lot of people my age so that puts me out of the running, the fact that I hold a BA, MA and Phd is negated by the lack of a the first, it is a ridiculous situation and happily I am not looking for work but I feel for a suitably qualified person who would fit in well but cannot apply.
 
/ Stupid workplace safety rules #79  
I never did the HSC as I went to trade school before the exam year as did a lot of people my age so that puts me out of the running, the fact that I hold a BA, MA and Phd is negated by the lack of a the first, it is a ridiculous situation...

In a similar situation here, there was a gal with a community college degree working with a bunch of 4 year engineering graduates and doing everything they did and did it well. However, they would not promote her beyond "aide" because she did not have a 4 year degree. Didn't matter what her abilities were or what she was doing - that piece of paper (whose value might be questioned) kept her back.
 
/ Stupid workplace safety rules #80  
Resistance is "Almost" futile...

You will conform and as long as you check the boxes and do what is expected you have covered yourself... that is until the entire firm or enterprise is no longer viable.

Middle managers are really there to make sure the masses comply.

My facility posted a safety notice stating county public Health Nurse requires the flue vaccine each year... and to make sure you get it sign up or submit proof from your physician.

It goes on to say vendors and related services must also have it.

Well, I made an appointment with the county Public Health Nurse who was gracious enough to see me and said it is "Recommendation... not a mandate..." interesting how things get twisted.

When I was approached for non-compliance I mentioned I met with the County Public Health Nurse who said there is no such requirement and presented his business card and said to call should HR have any questions... let's just say it did not go over well.

Technically, it is also voluntary in that you sign a consent form that you have been advised of possible adverse affects.. to give informed consent you must be provided with the FDA literature... which also was not available.

This year the efficacy is below 10%... not withstanding should you have an adverse reaction it is not a worker's comp case, nor can you sue the manufacturer or employer as both have full immunity... only recourse is to make a claim against a Federal Fund that has paid out millions.
 

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