Test Drive Error
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BigPete; Happy NewYear to you and you family. And may you all have a very prosperous New Year! Thanks for your Tips. I have less than an acre to mow, but I have other tasks that I need the 4100 for (boulders, muck moving/lifiting/dunping, quick grass cuts). Your inputs are right on with what everyone is saying and it does look like a MMM/Belly mower is what I will be going with - I am saving my pennes up for it now. It looks like a 54" is what i am going with as the 60" evidently has the repurtation for scuffing if you are not careful on slopes.
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duanet
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Nuru,
I've noticed the bounce with my 4100 HST which I've had for just two months. I figured it was the nature of a smaller compact tractor. I came from a 1944 Ford 2N with loaded tires and wheel weights. It didn't bounce! I'll check the tire pressure tomorrow, and may consider loading the rear R-4 tires with RV anti-freeze. The traction is great in FWD but leaves a lot to be desired when disengaged even with an empty FEL.
Like TerryinMD, my spare cinch pins are mounted in small welded loops on the left (not adjustable) 3PH link. I did get a rubber cord with my tractor but it doesn't have the handy pockets.
I'm not attaching any photos of my 4100 because it is a mess. The day before the ground froze I was digging a diversion ditch in very wet, soft ground. I buried it once (that day) and had to "walk" it out with the FEL. It was just below freezing and I couldn't wash it up. Maybe during the January thaw! Happy New Year!
Duane
I've noticed the bounce with my 4100 HST which I've had for just two months. I figured it was the nature of a smaller compact tractor. I came from a 1944 Ford 2N with loaded tires and wheel weights. It didn't bounce! I'll check the tire pressure tomorrow, and may consider loading the rear R-4 tires with RV anti-freeze. The traction is great in FWD but leaves a lot to be desired when disengaged even with an empty FEL.
Like TerryinMD, my spare cinch pins are mounted in small welded loops on the left (not adjustable) 3PH link. I did get a rubber cord with my tractor but it doesn't have the handy pockets.
I'm not attaching any photos of my 4100 because it is a mess. The day before the ground froze I was digging a diversion ditch in very wet, soft ground. I buried it once (that day) and had to "walk" it out with the FEL. It was just below freezing and I couldn't wash it up. Maybe during the January thaw! Happy New Year!
Duane
duanet
Silver Member
Nuru,
You replied so quickly I just had to go check the tire pressure. The rears are 14 and fronts are 26. It looks to me as though my dealer did OK there.
I got thinking... I have considered trailering my 4100 and the additional weight of loaded tires could require a considerably heavier - and more expensive - trailer. I did get the optional weight box, so maybe I ought to fill that with something and try that for a while. I also have a fairly heavy back blade which does help, and that is usually on during the winter. We'll have to see what happens before I get too hasty about loading tires.
Duane
You replied so quickly I just had to go check the tire pressure. The rears are 14 and fronts are 26. It looks to me as though my dealer did OK there.
I got thinking... I have considered trailering my 4100 and the additional weight of loaded tires could require a considerably heavier - and more expensive - trailer. I did get the optional weight box, so maybe I ought to fill that with something and try that for a while. I also have a fairly heavy back blade which does help, and that is usually on during the winter. We'll have to see what happens before I get too hasty about loading tires.
Duane
duanet
Silver Member
Tom,
I can try that. The only thing I can find in the owner's manual is to check the air pressure with an accurate gauge. "Locate MAXIMUM PSI on the tire side wall," it says. That's 40 PSI on my R-4s. I guess that leaves lots of room for trial and error.
Actually, the only time the bounce has concerned me is on the side hill. If the uphill tire bounces, that increases the tilt. So I have been going slower... and I fasten my seat belt.
Duane
I can try that. The only thing I can find in the owner's manual is to check the air pressure with an accurate gauge. "Locate MAXIMUM PSI on the tire side wall," it says. That's 40 PSI on my R-4s. I guess that leaves lots of room for trial and error.
Actually, the only time the bounce has concerned me is on the side hill. If the uphill tire bounces, that increases the tilt. So I have been going slower... and I fasten my seat belt.
Duane
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How do the diameters of the rear tires compare between your 2N Ford and the 4100 HST? I recall the difference in the ride between my old JD420 Utility and a rented JD855. The JD855 was relatively rough and I thought amplified every pockmark and bump in the lawn and the fields. I decided for sure I was going to get at least a JD1070 if I traded up, and procrastinated long enough to end up with a JD4300. Still the JD4300 isn't as smooth as the larger-tired, old JD420 (which is similar in tire size to your Ford 2N, I think).
Duanet, I also teach online course at a University, so once I am on the workstation, I typically do see a lot of the messages that come across the Web for me, and if I happen to be on this site......oh well. You may want to reduce those fronts to 22, as that is what is recommended on the fronts of mine (Bridgestones). I probably will go to 14 - 20 on the rears. Yes if you plan on carrying your 4100 around with implements, then you probably should go with something that is capable of carrying 4-5000 lbs. The unit weighs ~1500 lbs by itself. My trailer has a capacity of 2900GVWR, but that means that I can only carry up to 2200 lbs in its present state. I am thinking that I may want to beef it up (double axle it or trade up). The limiting factor for me is that I need a trailer the same size, so trading up is a problem. modifying it, seems more likely. I will check with the trailer dealer and see what they can do - they do mods. I am also asking the manufacturer too.
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TerryinMD
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Nuru,
Ok, got it! JD makes changes now and then. I couldn't figure out what the pins were attached to.
On the left side of the picture, you see two loops on the adjustable link. That is are/where my pins were stored. So the rubber strap has a couple of holes in it to slip the pins into, correct.
Thanks for the photos.
Terry
Ok, got it! JD makes changes now and then. I couldn't figure out what the pins were attached to.
On the left side of the picture, you see two loops on the adjustable link. That is are/where my pins were stored. So the rubber strap has a couple of holes in it to slip the pins into, correct.
Thanks for the photos.
Terry
duanet
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No comparison... the Ford 2N, as I recall, had 12.5 X 28 loaded ag tires; the 4100 has 12 X 16.5 industrial tread. About the only similarity is the HP. As Nuru has suggested, I'll probably play with the air pressure a little and see how it does with the work I have planned for it in the spring. But I don't really consider it a problem; just different.
What little (about 20 hours) I have done with the 4100 so far I have been impressed and very pleased. I actually dug a ditch with the FEL deep enough to put a 20" X 20' culvert in a seasonal creek to give me access to my rear 4 acres that I am clearing. I carried about 8 tons of crushed stone out there with the FEL and have hauled logs out of the woods. With the 4WD it seems to have a pulling power and traction close to equal the 2N, and the front end stays on the ground!
What little (about 20 hours) I have done with the 4100 so far I have been impressed and very pleased. I actually dug a ditch with the FEL deep enough to put a 20" X 20' culvert in a seasonal creek to give me access to my rear 4 acres that I am clearing. I carried about 8 tons of crushed stone out there with the FEL and have hauled logs out of the woods. With the 4WD it seems to have a pulling power and traction close to equal the 2N, and the front end stays on the ground!
duanet
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Nuru, I haven't tried it, but I just found gobs of enticing info on their web site at www.arnconet.com.
Duane
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