rox
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5030,
That is a huge building, colud you please post a picture of that when you have a bit of time.
That is a huge building, colud you please post a picture of that when you have a bit of time.
The truth about Arched Steel Buildings...
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MotorSeven
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mikim
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M7 - I can see framing that end wall was a real challenge -- but on the door rough out .... are you done on that or are you still working on it? From what I see it doesn't look like you have a good header there - and unless you put one in - the framing above that door will sag and you won't be able to open your french doors.
EddieWalker
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MotorSeven,
Interesting challenge to frame out an arch. I've never done this, so it's something new to me that I've never even thought about. How are you going to finish of the exterior and interior walls?
The spacing and alignment of your lumber makes it look like you are not planing on using any traditional 4x8 sheeting.
Mike has a good point about your headers. Even though they are not load bearing for the roof, they are still supporting the weight of the wall above, plus spanning a sizable distance. How far are the rough openings?
Wood will start to sag fairlly quickly when placed over a span if it's undersized. When this happens, doors stop opening properly and siding begins to crack.
Is that a turkey in there? I'm sure it isn't, but it sure does look like one. hahaha
Eddie
Interesting challenge to frame out an arch. I've never done this, so it's something new to me that I've never even thought about. How are you going to finish of the exterior and interior walls?
The spacing and alignment of your lumber makes it look like you are not planing on using any traditional 4x8 sheeting.
Mike has a good point about your headers. Even though they are not load bearing for the roof, they are still supporting the weight of the wall above, plus spanning a sizable distance. How far are the rough openings?
Wood will start to sag fairlly quickly when placed over a span if it's undersized. When this happens, doors stop opening properly and siding begins to crack.
Is that a turkey in there? I'm sure it isn't, but it sure does look like one. hahaha
Eddie
em14
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I agree with Eddie ... that sure looks like a Turkey!
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bucmeister
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weldingisfun,
You got your slab for $1200!! Man I need to talk to your crete company. Around here figuring 1500 sq ft of 4" slab with footings I see it taking about 20 yds +/- and with the concrete running $75 /yd "out the chute" it would cost $1500 without wire/fiber/rebar/forming/finishing costs. Concrete in the Lone Star State must be mucho cheaper. Count your blessings. I "need" to pour about 50 yards in three locations, but am holding off because of costs and my time.
You got your slab for $1200!! Man I need to talk to your crete company. Around here figuring 1500 sq ft of 4" slab with footings I see it taking about 20 yds +/- and with the concrete running $75 /yd "out the chute" it would cost $1500 without wire/fiber/rebar/forming/finishing costs. Concrete in the Lone Star State must be mucho cheaper. Count your blessings. I "need" to pour about 50 yards in three locations, but am holding off because of costs and my time.
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em14 said:
I think its a cat. Look in the first pic, he is looking at dog on 4 wheeler. The one where it looks like a turkey in the middle of the floor, he is walking toward/away from camera with tail in the air. I had to go back and look myself.
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I've been building for 45 years so far,gen.contr.
That end wall has no lateral strength ! With some, wind it will blow in and out ,I believe. Look for some heave guage metel studs. There nothing like you see at home d.
That end wall has no lateral strength ! With some, wind it will blow in and out ,I believe. Look for some heave guage metel studs. There nothing like you see at home d.
pat32rf
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The strength of the end wall could come from whatever he is going to use to close it in. If it is sheathed on both sides with wood which is screwed on it might be a lot stronger than it looks.
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MotorSeven
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LOL...!
Jeeze, i didn't mean to stir y'all up. No it is not a Turkey or a cat, it's Annie our Welsh Terrier, although we do call her "Chimpannie" because she climbs anything, makes chimp-like sounds, crawls up and will sit on your shoulder...etcetc.
Now for the framing: it is 2x6 PT. There is a double header above the french door opening, and there will also be a 2x6 on edge on the inside (supporting a 10x14 loft) and on the outsidea 2x8 supporting a 14x6 tin roof. You can't see it much in the photo, but i have used heavy galv strapping to lock the top of the wall, pulling it against the inside of an arch curve. The strapping spans 2 arches before being screwed to the wall. The 2x6 sole plate is bolted to the slab using a 1/2 x 8" red head every 2 feet. I am using 7/16 OSB on the outside and inside(no sheet rock), it's strength is length wise, so, no i did not frame it all the way around, and besides, it will only be supporting vinyl siding. Pic's to follow............
The angles were/are a challenge, because they are all different as you go up one side, so my wife and i made templates on the first side which we will use on the other 9 sides(2 outer walls and 1 interior wall). If it caves-in it's gonna take a heck of a wind..........
RD
Jeeze, i didn't mean to stir y'all up. No it is not a Turkey or a cat, it's Annie our Welsh Terrier, although we do call her "Chimpannie" because she climbs anything, makes chimp-like sounds, crawls up and will sit on your shoulder...etcetc.
Now for the framing: it is 2x6 PT. There is a double header above the french door opening, and there will also be a 2x6 on edge on the inside (supporting a 10x14 loft) and on the outsidea 2x8 supporting a 14x6 tin roof. You can't see it much in the photo, but i have used heavy galv strapping to lock the top of the wall, pulling it against the inside of an arch curve. The strapping spans 2 arches before being screwed to the wall. The 2x6 sole plate is bolted to the slab using a 1/2 x 8" red head every 2 feet. I am using 7/16 OSB on the outside and inside(no sheet rock), it's strength is length wise, so, no i did not frame it all the way around, and besides, it will only be supporting vinyl siding. Pic's to follow............
The angles were/are a challenge, because they are all different as you go up one side, so my wife and i made templates on the first side which we will use on the other 9 sides(2 outer walls and 1 interior wall). If it caves-in it's gonna take a heck of a wind..........
RD
