The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!

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My dream stove is an auger feed chip burner. I can get free chipper chips from tree guys. Then I could feed a hopper with a tractor bucket. That would mean no more cutting firewood and no more handling wood.

My 5 year goal is to have a coal boiler for the same reasons except I don’t get free coal.
 
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How much does coal cost?
 
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Thank you for this post. I have been saving for my grapple and valve setup. I have been debating wether to get a � shape grapple or the clamshell. I will be picking up a variety of material but mostly logs, and split fire wood. Still haven稚 made a decision but this was good info I haven稚 thought of yet

FWIW, with EA's Wicked root grapple I've yet to push "under" a pile of brush. With a Wicked Root Grapple the technique is to push the bottom of the tines against the whatever you're nabbing, and then roll the top of the grapple over the whatever you're nabbing until both the bottom tines and the top lid(s) are touching the ground. Then the grapple is closed while lifting the loader up as needed to take pressure off of the lids as the rolling motion tends to lift the front of the loader-tractor. Other style loaders, such as those that have thin lower tines can slide under whatever you're nabbing, but the Wicked Root Grapple is not made to do that. You can see the rolling-nabbing motion in this video.

 
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That痴 a lot of fire wood. I don稚 think my tractor would pick that all up lol. I use a ton of wood in my boiler. I hear a house and barn/workshop that was built in late 1890痴. Due to that keeping up with fire wood is almost a full time endeavor. I used to cut it, split it, stack it. Etc. now I cut it and split it and I to a giant pile wood it goes. This allows me to get more cutting and splitting done since I don稚 stack it. I have to cut and split because my wife has to load the furnace when I知 away due to work. So I dream of getting a grapple that lets me grab wood from the pile and move it next to the stove for my wife whilst I知 gone. When I知 home I load the stove using the tractor and forks sliding 3.5ft length logs as big around as I dare. That way she get a solid 24 hours before it needs reloading.


"So I dream of getting a grapple that lets me grab wood from the pile and move it next to the stove for my wife whilst I知 gone."



Maybe other grapples work well for picking up cut firewood.

But I have tried a few times and it was not a productive way to grab and move it. jmo and ymmv

ps. picking up brush piles by sliding under them with a round tined grapple is possible, but angle of the tines is critical, pretty easy to go digging when that is NOT what you are trying to do
 
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FWIW, with EA's Wicked root grapple I've yet to push "under" a pile of brush. With a Wicked Root Grapple the technique is to push the bottom of the tines against the whatever you're nabbing, and then roll the top of the grapple over the whatever you're nabbing until both the bottom tines and the top lid(s) are touching the ground. Then the grapple is closed while lifting the loader up as needed to take pressure off of the lids as the rolling motion tends to lift the front of the loader-tractor. Other style loaders, such as those that have thin lower tines can slide under whatever you're nabbing, but the Wicked Root Grapple is not made to do that. You can see the rolling-nabbing motion in this video.


I keep a 4' strap for exactly what you did with that chain but faster and not so heavy/noisy. Slide the strap under, girth hitch it through an eye, loop the other eye on one of the grapple teeth and at the far end I can even dump it without getting off the tractor if I want to then get a good grab on the log with a grapple and move it where it needs to go.
 
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I didn't measure any of them, guess their probably 45-60'. It was a really poorly managed planted forest so I have a lot of thinning to do when I have time, just wanted to get some of the danger trees out of there since my oldest has her chickens in there.






pushed this one over- and caused a bit of pucker factor, although it worked was happy to get a dozer for the rest of the ones to be removed.

Still got intense removing this one next to the garage with a saw and dozer

grapple was handy to move the stump
 

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/ The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #2,908  
"So I dream of getting a grapple that lets me grab wood from the pile and move it next to the stove for my wife whilst I知 gone."



Maybe other grapples work well for picking up cut firewood.

But I have tried a few times and it was not a productive way to grab and move it. jmo and ymmv

ps. picking up brush piles by sliding under them with a round tined grapple is possible, but angle of the tines is critical, pretty easy to go digging when that is NOT what you are trying to do

Don’t kill the dream . I hope it works I’d be happy if I didn’t have to get on and off the tractor all the time. I think it’s biggest savings for me will be moving the rounds to the splitting area. However I still hope I can grab wood from the pile.
 
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This is the best firewood moving visual I've seen. Roger aka 94BULLITT is a Wicked customer from wayyy back!
He has always been BIG into firewood and he knows his Wicked Grapple very, very well.
Travis

 
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This is the best firewood moving visual I've seen. Roger aka 94BULLITT is a Wicked customer from wayyy back!
He has always been BIG into firewood and he knows his Wicked Grapple very, very well.
Travis


Thank you Obi Wan Kanobi! The dream still lives. I’ve almost saved enough to order the grapple and valve. As well as my brush mower. I want to order it all at once.

Question that video shows a dual lid the one that best matches the tractor is the single lid. Anyone have experience with that setup? If so how does it work for you? What’s the biggest limitation?
 
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Thank you Obi Wan Kanobi! The dream still lives. I’ve almost saved enough to order the grapple and valve. As well as my brush mower. I want to order it all at once.

Question that video shows a dual lid the one that best matches the tractor is the single lid. Anyone have experience with that setup? If so how does it work for you? What’s the biggest limitation?

Wow that is impressive!
Looks like the spacing and rectangular tines on the Wicked grapple works very well especially with Roger at the wheel:thumbsup:
 
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I'd got pretty good at moving firewood with a grapple. Narrow spacing of the tines was definitely better. I was working off concrete and that also helped. I've watched a guy do it with a skid steer bucket and it worked a lot better than a tractor bucket. I've wanted to build a bucket that was about 4 feet deep but steel was cost prohibitive.
 
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What is the main use for your grapple?

Xfaxman, Sorry for not replying it appears I am not being notified that I have had a response to a post. Another thing to look into.

Primarily I want to move tree branches that I have limbed from trees that I have fallen with chainsaw. I have 3 large piles of branches 10" and less that I limbed 2 years ago so they are well dry and are now difficult to remove from pile by hand. Also to move the trunks of the trees. I can't burn in my area. They run from 32" to 18' diameter a few bigger I would cut them to a length of aprox 16' or shorter if need be so I can move them to a central spot to chip & split.

I also have a rock pile that I would like to move Stones from to big to pick up to alot of 18" to 12" and a few piles of smaller stones the smallest being 4 to 2 inch these I may have to just manually toss in to tractor bucket to move. I forget if I said my tractor I want to use with this grapple my Kubota M5140 52hp wt with ballast I estimate a bit over 10,000 lbs. Loader is an LA1153 it appears lift capacity to 59 inches is 2646 lbs Thanks Bill
 
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Why is it so expensive? Your tractor can only lift about 2500 pounds. I think you should look at what EA is offering.

EricTheOracle, I was not notified of post I will take another look at EA. Thanks
 
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What is the main use for your grapple?

Xfaxman, Sorry for not replying it appears I am not being notified that I have had a response to a post. Another thing to look into.

Primarily I want to move tree branches that I have limbed from trees that I have fallen with chainsaw. I have 3 large piles of branches 10" and less that I limbed 2 years ago so they are well dry and are now difficult to remove from pile by hand. Also to move the trunks of the trees. I can't burn in my area. They run from 32" to 18' diameter a few bigger I would cut them to a length of aprox 16' or shorter if need be so I can move them to a central spot to chip & split.

I also have a rock pile that I would like to move Stones from to big to pick up to alot of 18" to 12" and a few piles of smaller stones the smallest being 4 to 2 inch these I may have to just manually toss in to tractor bucket to move. I forget if I said my tractor I want to use with this grapple my Kubota M5140 52hp wt with ballast I estimate a bit over 10,000 lbs. Loader is an LA1153 it appears lift capacity to 59 inches is 2646 lbs Thanks Bill

No problem.

For your uses either style will work, but the L bottom will pick up more branches from the pile.

For the rocks, EA has some L bottom models with removable inserts that are added between the bottom tines, that would work well for the smaller rocks.
 
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Thanks will look more into the this "EA has some L bottom models with removable inserts"
 
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Thanks will look more into the this "EA has some L bottom models with removable inserts"

I bought an EA 73” Single lid Wicked Grapple for Utility Tractors, specifically for moving trimmed tree branches and brush. It’s 42 1/2” jaw opening works very well for that purpose. It’s been used on our LS XR4046HC 46 HP tractor. We’re in process of upgrading that Tractor to a new LS XR4155HC which has 55 HP.

IMHO this Grapple would serve you very well.

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We also have an HD 84” Blue Diamond dual lid grapple installed, almost permanently, on our 96 HP New Holland TL100A. It’s primary use is pushing over dead trees and moving to burn piles.

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Can’t help on your rocks as we have none here.

The only thing better than having a grapple........ is having two.

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Eric and I don't often agree but we do in this case. That Anbo grapple is aimed at the commercial skidsteer market IMO. A Kubota M5140 doesn't have a super strong loader and would use the same class grapple as Eric and I own and use on similar size tractors with 2700lb lift capacity FELs.

Island Tractor & Eric, When I get a chance I should place some tractor ballast I have laying around and see just how much it can lift As I see Different data and have seen complaints about it will not lift could have just been a relief valve problem. Till then I will assume it will lift a little over 2500. What grapples do you two have ? I certainly don't want to spend more $ than I need & I would like to keep the grapple weight down it I can. Thanks for the reply
 
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That grapple will do great. Post some pictures when you get it. Good choice.

Well, my 55" single lid came in today!!! Very happy! It works so good. Can't wait to get more seat time with it!

Here's my terrible night time pictures, I'll get more as I use it!

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Eric I am looking at all options, I was hoping to move some Stones also, Now looking at the W.R. Long Open Bottom Grapple 1 and the EA Wicked Root Grapple for Large Compact and Utility Tractors. I do appreciate you help and suggestions.
 
 

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