They wont leave will enough alone:

[davitk]

Exiled, I am sure you do not want to hear this, but your wife is right. You are only hurting yourself by not accepting this offer. What if, in 12 months, there is a problem related to the machine being run short on oil? If you accept their offer, you're covered. If not it is coming out of your pocket.

Letting go of offense is healthy. You only punnish yourself, kind of tears you up inside, you carry this load everywhere with you. So let it go. Take their offer, you are not obligated to do business with them in the future. although if you do they will no doubt treat you better from this point forward. Listen to your wife, she knows you better than the rest of us do. And I am sure she has your best intersts in mind.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Exiled, I am sure you do not want to hear this, but your wife is right. You are only hurting yourself by not accepting this offer. What if, in 12 months, there is a problem related to the machine being run short on oil? If you accept their offer, you're covered. If not it is coming out of your pocket.

Letting go of offense is healthy. You only punnish yourself, kind of tears you up inside, you carry this load everywhere with you. So let it go. Take their offer, you are not obligated to do business with them in the future. although if you do they will no doubt treat you better from this point forward. Listen to your wife, she knows you better than the rest of us do. And I am sure she has your best intersts in mind.

You are right, he wouldn't be obligated to do business with them but he will feel guilty if he didn't and had to take his tractor to them for warranty work. It is hard to explain the feeling but in my experience it is best to cut ties with them and not worry about it anymore which is what Exiled is trying to do.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Robert, Arrow, and plastikosmd I'm not looking over yall thank yall for yall's replies.

Robert I do not know your case and have been weeding thru your near 5000 post trying to find it. wheee. Still no luck and I've gotten behind.

Well, if you are bored and want to read this thread should explain my recent experience http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/ag-tractors-machinery/110955-i-might-need-sell-my.html

 

[exiled]

Exiled, I am sure you do not want to hear this, but your wife is right. You are only hurting yourself by not accepting this offer. What if, in 12 months, there is a problem related to the machine being run short on oil? If you accept their offer, you're covered. If not it is coming out of your pocket.

Letting go of offense is healthy. You only punnish yourself, kind of tears you up inside, you carry this load everywhere with you. So let it go. Take their offer, you are not obligated to do business with them in the future. although if you do they will no doubt treat you better from this point forward. Listen to your wife, she knows you better than the rest of us do. And I am sure she has your best intersts in mind.

This is true and I see what your saying. Good point.

 

[exiled]

Exiled, I am sure you do not want to hear this, but your wife is right. You are only hurting yourself by not accepting this offer. What if, in 12 months, there is a problem related to the machine being run short on oil? If you accept their offer, you're covered. If not it is coming out of your pocket.

Letting go of offense is healthy. You only punnish yourself, kind of tears you up inside, you carry this load everywhere with you. So let it go. Take their offer, you are not obligated to do business with them in the future. although if you do they will no doubt treat you better from this point forward. Listen to your wife, she knows you better than the rest of us do. And I am sure she has your best intersts in mind.

This is true. I see what your saying. Good point thanks.

 

[arrow]

Thank you Exile for desribing your exploits. Gives everyone a chance to see things thru other eyes which isn't necessarily always a bad thing.

 

[plastikosmd]

pride may have been the wrong word, I just had to pick one, possibly Sense of right/wrong, morals, rules to live by, ego...whatever your term is. Just because you have it doesnt mean it's correct in every instance. I agree with your wife, she has the unique experience of knowing you (which i'm sure is not a bad thing), knowing your finances, the tractor and the rest. I guess it is sorta like that saying...the measure of a man is not one who stands above others on the ladder of life and blocks but one who reaches down and helps those up to stand beside him...(somethin like that)

 

[exiled]

pride may have been the wrong word, I just had to pick one, possibly Sense of right/wrong, morals, rules to live by, ego...whatever your term is. Just because you have it doesnt mean it's correct in every instance. I agree with your wife, she has the unique experience of knowing you (which i'm sure is not a bad thing), knowing your finances, the tractor and the rest. I guess it is sorta like that saying...the measure of a man is not one who stands above others on the ladder of life and blocks but one who reaches down and helps those up to stand beside him...(somethin like that)

I know what you was saying. I did'nt feel attacked or anything. I just dont see where you get it from. I forgave them or as your "other words" I came off my ladder. Even though I dont see nothing to forgive. I dont a wrong. I just see I dont fit in their business worthy profile. Since I know I'm not doing anymore trading with them I dont feel moved to lower my personaul standards that I have set for "myself" to make this dealership feel good about themselves. Why do I owe them that? I paided them $16,000. How do I owe them anything more? If they wanted me to spend more money with them then they should have acted like it.
Let me ask this. What good is a tractor with out attachments? Now all I bought as far as attachments was a bushhog. Lets get a raise of hands of how many here has had a tractor longer than a year and has'nt bought other attachments? Whats my point? There is a far greater odd that I'm buying more stuff than not. Face this was a pretty expence gras cutter. A tractor can only do so much then it needs attachments. I did'nt get the feeling the cared if I came back or not. When I buy hay stuff I'm not going to waste 3 days again just to get it home. I will never be there again. If I need a hose I feel like if I go up to the parts counter and ask for what I need he'll look at me like "and??????". I dont have time for this kind of service.
Its just easier for me to be did with it, and find a better place that does business.

 

[Ken Cunningham]

Hey Exiled,

Im sorry to hear your purchase was less than plesant, to say the least. If I was blown off by any business like that I certainly would look for another place to buy. The place were I work is a Pipe Valve and Fitting distributor that mainly sells to large plants, papermills, pharmaceutical, and nuclear. Having said that, whenever a walk in customer comes to our warehouse we make every effert to help that person, even if we dont have what they are looking for we will send them to a competitor that may have it in stock if they need it right away, instead of just saying "um sorry we cant help". The point is that in any business, the customer is providing the influx of money that goes to paying everyone, so every customer should be treated well.

If they realy wanted repeat business they would have taken care of you better than what you are saying they did. I dont know if its a dealer only call about used machines, but I would have expected them to at least service the machine with fluids and filters. Lets face it you bought a tractor "as is". If you go home a run it with low oil and it casues some type of damage, then its on you to pay for it. So the dealer definetly isnt looking out for your best interest.

As far as your friend going to bat for you with the dealer, I would definetly tell him thanks, but that you dont want to do business with that dealer after being treated like that. If he felt like he should tell them he wont be doing business there either, well thats his choice to make. Tell him they offered to make it right, after all if he has been doing business with them for all these years there must be a reason.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

As far as your friend going to bat for you with the dealer, I would definetly tell him thanks, but that you dont want to do business with that dealer after being treated like that. If he felt like he should tell them he wont be doing business there either, well thats his choice to make. Tell him they offered to make it right, after all if he has been doing business with them for all these years there must be a reason.

I had to have a heart to heart once with the manager of the dealership I use to go to all the time. I would refer people to them all the time, then I had a couple people come back and tell me how terrible they were treated and I personally felt responsible because I told them to go there. I talked to the manager and his boss and since then things have been a lot better.

I have friends like Exiled's but they asked me if I wanted them to talk to the dealer for me. I thanked them but asked them not to and explained why as I want the dealer to make right without feeling pressured by others. I know if I ask them to go with me I would have a huge bargining chip and my dealer would most likely be forced to do what is right but I would not be comfortable with it and I would not want to cause potential problems for my friends.

I am glad Exiled has his tractor and for all intents and purposes is done with this subject. I actually envy him as I have been waiting for over 4 months now for my dealer to show any interest in negotiating with me in good faith.