Thinking about upgrading

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amigauser

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Kubota B2601
I have a B3030HTSCC cab tractor and I have been thinking about upgrading to a Grand L 3240 or 3540 with the 724 loader. I am in the process of getting quotes now on a Grand L.

I am wondering what my B3030 is worth (I am located in Connecticut).

It is the B3030HTSCC cold weather cab model with the rear defrost and wiper along with the heavy duty alternator. It has factory heat and air-conditioning along with the CD/weather radio. It also has all cab options including rear work lights and two factory rear remotes. It has R4 tires with the rears loaded with rim guard. It has the ATI Tach-all skid steer type Q/A on the loader along with a WR Long true 3rd function kit and bulkhead kit for grapple etc. use. It also has the mid pto kit for a mower etc. I also have the Kubota front quick hitch and 6ft front blade for winter snow removal. The tractor has under 90 hours on it and is two years old. Replacement cost would be close to $30k with the options.

I was planning on asking around $22,000 for it. Thoughts??
 
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Price sounds fair to me but others will chime in that know more... On the new machine though I would surely go for the LA854, forget what min. HP that comes on..
I have never heard one complain on having too much FEL power:D

Good luck what ever route ya go..
Chuck.
 
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don't know about value of yours or what a cab adds to a L 3240/3540 but the L854 is not offered for those machines. You'll have to get a LA 724 on those.
 
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I have almost the same machine as you & I wouldn't sell it for less than $28,000. You're loosing too much money @ $22,000. If you start high you can always come down in price. That's just my opinion & you probably already know the saying about opinions.
 
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I have almost the same machine as you & I wouldn't sell it for less than $28,000. You're loosing too much money @ $22,000. If you start high you can always come down in price. That's just my opinion & you probably already know the saying about opinions.

I doubt I could get $28000 for it although the replacement cost is easily that and more with tax. I have it listed now for $23500. I am going to take a "hit" on the price but with the Kubota 0% for 42 months that is available now on new "B" series it makes it tough. Most of the used B cab models are listed around $20,000 but don't include all of the options that mine has. If I can get $22,000 for it I would be happy. I am also waiting on a trade in quote from some local Kubota dealers. If it doesn't sell I will hold onto it.
 
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To me it doesn't seem that there would be much of an advantage in the upgrades that you are talking about, at least in terms of power. Is there something in particular that you don't like about the B3030 that you could upgrade individually, because your cost for each of those 90 hours of use is going to be very high.
 
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I am mainly interested in the LA724 loader for grapple work. It will lift almost double the weight of the LA403 on the B3030. This would probably be my last upgrade for years. Agreed, it is a hit based on the hours. I am still waying my options.
 
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Go for the 3540 with the 724! I made the same jump up from a B3030 HSDC with the 403 and it was like going from an impala to a caddy! The 3030 is a fine machine, strong loader & pto, great on fuel, easy to service, etc. This new grand L 40 series is a DREAM tractor and if you go for the cab, holy cow!! I AM IN LOVE WITH THIS MACHINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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I am actually looking at open station Grand L's. The cab is/was nice for snow removal but for the other uses an open station tractor would work just as well for me. The cab models are just to much $$ It also would not clear my garage door due to the Grand L cab height.

I have not had much luck yet selling my B3030. The local dealer only offered $20,000 in trade. That is to much of a hit. If I can sell my B3030 for at least $22,500 I will move up to a Grand L3240. It is quite a machine. Otherwise I will continue with my B3030, it has served me well so far.
 
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I sold my 3030 in a private sale to a tbn member, the dealer trade in offer was a joke! Good luck, i hope you can make it work out.
 
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Last year a dealer around here would have had me in a Grand L3540 HST with a cab if he had made me a reasonable offer on my trade.

The year before that I would have been in a L3540 HST (no cab) if a big brother Kubota regional service manager hadn't poked his long nose into my business and told my purchasing dealer (who sucked) that I was talking to a competitor of his about some warranty work. Of course he didn't know that I was also pricing out the new Grand Ls.

In hindsight, I think both things worked out well. My little L3400 is doing me just fine at 50-60 hrs per year, I don't need much more than it. One day I will get a CAB tractor but at this point it would be a luxury and one I can't really afford given the other billion things I ought to spend money on first!

I don't quite understand why dealers low-ball you on a trade though.
 
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I doubt I could get $28000 for it although the replacement cost is easily that and more with tax. I have it listed now for $23500. I am going to take a "hit" on the price but with the Kubota 0% for 42 months that is available now on new "B" series it makes it tough. Most of the used B cab models are listed around $20,000 but don't include all of the options that mine has. If I can get $22,000 for it I would be happy. I am also waiting on a trade in quote from some local Kubota dealers. If it doesn't sell I will hold onto it.

You could think of it this way, too. You could have taken that money that you paid for that B3030 & invested in the stock market. Then you would have taken a HUGE hit!

Even if you decide not to trade you still have a really nice tractor. I should have said before that I have a larger tractor, an Oliver 77, for those few times when the B3030 is too small. And that's part of what makes the B3030 nice for me. It's a good size for using around my buildings where I wouldn't dare go with the 77 & if I need a bigger tractor the 77 is available as long as I'm not right up against the house with it.

Also, I can run the generator & plow snow at the same time. I know this is an issue for some guys here when discussing PTO generators. I have front mounted snow plows for both tractors & they will both run the generator too. The B3030 is better on the generator though because the governor works better on that one.

Oh, and I also have a little JD LX288 lawn tractor which is handy when my niece &/or nephew help me mow lawn. They sit on the little JD and sweat while I am in the air conditioned B3030! But I also make sure I pay them well too.
 
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I don't quite understand why dealers low-ball you on a trade though.

It all depends of course on the market. It only makes sense that the dealer will buy low and sell high, he has to make some money to pay the bills. For most people it does not make sense to buy a lightly used tractor.

Check out these links:
2007 Kubota 3940 LOADED
8540 KUBOTA

You are going to take a big hit if you try to sell a nice used low hour tractor. When you do the math and figure in the 0% financing you'll find that you can buy a brand new tractor from the dealer with full warranty for the same monthly payment (and number of payments) as the slightly used tractor financed at a higher rate.
 
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piller said:
You are going to take a big hit if you try to sell a nice used low hour tractor. When you do the math and figure in the 0% financing you'll find that you can buy a brand new tractor from the dealer with full warranty for the same monthly payment (and number of payments) as the slightly used tractor financed at a higher rate.

Agreed, I basically stated the same thing earlier. The 0% for 42 months makes a NEW "B" series a better deal in some cases then a used one (depending on the price). But that is the reason I priced my B3030 as low as I did to make it more competative. I think a bigger issue at the moment is the economy, nobody wants to take on any debt. Cars, boats, tractors, etc. are not selling very well right now (even new ones). My local Craigslist has a bunch of Kubotas and tractors in general for sale to.

At this point I will probably be sticking with the B3030 for now. The 26 degree temperature today in Connecticut reminded me how nice the cab will be for snow removal ;)
 
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At this point I will probably be sticking with the B3030 for now. The 26 degree temperature today in Connecticut reminded me how nice the cab will be for snow removal ;)[/QUOTE]

You're not loosing anything by keeping that tractor. If its anything like mine it's a great little tractor to have around. And i still think your asking price is too low. Start higher. You can always come down. And don't be in a hurry to sell.
 
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He can always add an aftermarket cab down the road, here in new england you need one more often than you realize. Hold out for your price, its not like you are tractorless and a 3030 is a fine machine.
 
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I thought your price looked pretty good until I checked the exchange rate:(, by the time I changed money I might as well buy a new one. I'd like a cab tractor for moving snow but still struggling with whether it would be a plus or not for everything else I use the tractor for. I'm actually thinking that a heat houser might be a good solution, get some heat from the engine without being fully enclosed.
 
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I think your price is very fair. My friend sold his b3030 with cab,blower,back blade,loader for 19000 and I know people kicking them selfs for not jumping on it. I love my cab for heat ,flies, snow.
 
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I'm currently shopping, too, and was quoted $21,700 for a new 3240 w/loader at our local orange/blue dealer - what kind of prices are you seeing there?
 
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Erik, out the door for $19,000. 2008 L3240 w/ 724 SS QA FEL, CC filled R4s, rear work light. 0/0 for 54 months. Cincinnati area. Can probably get you the same deal.

I love everything about this tractor.
 

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