This is just plain WRONG!!

   / This is just plain WRONG!! #51  
Junkman,

Are you speaking of all products or just the car business? I had read that the Japanese where the first to use this practice in the car industry, but hey, can't believe everything you read.
 
   / This is just plain WRONG!! #52  
dfeck,
How right you are. A dealer will not sell you something if he is going to lose money and a dealer's reputation is just as important as price. When I first started to shop for a Kubota, the nearest dealer was 100 miles away, and he tried to sell me a used tractor for more than another dealer was selling a new one. As I got down to the time to buy, low and behold, a new dealership opened up locally. I went there immediately to check it out. Now, I don't know about what works for most of you, but when I enter a dealership for the first time...regardless of car, tractor, or whatever...I always act like I know nothing about their product. I want them to walk me through it all. This shows me two things, how much they know, and how much I don't know. I always take the wife too, but that is for a different reason. Anyway, this new dealer started out okay, but quickly started a rap that sounded more like a shady used car salesman than a tractor dealer. His BS also had a ring of familiarity that I was trying to place. When we got to price, he was way out of line with everybody else's quotes, except for the next closest dealer. Come to find out, that dealer owned both dealerships. I ended up having to travel a fair shake to get my tractor, but the dealer has been around a long time and was straight from the beginning (made 5 trips there). His price was not quite the best, but was close enough for me...
 
   / This is just plain WRONG!! #53  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Junkman,

Are you speaking of all products or just the car business? I had read that the Japanese where the first to use this practice in the car industry, but hey, can't believe everything you read. )</font>

I was referring to the U.S. auto industry. I believe that it was the Teamsters that originally came up with the idea of single price shipping because they were loosing out on car shipping that was done close to the factories. With the single price shipping cost, they made more money because they got paid the same for hauling every car no matter where it was going. My guess is that this happened in the later half of the 1960's. Possibly in 1967? Another thing that came into play was the Government requiring the auto manufacturers to put window stickers on cars, because prior to the window sticker legislation, you never knew exactly what a car should cost. Dealers were free to make up any "list price" and then sell from that. I believe that window stickers came about in 1957 or 58. It is unfortunate that there is so much "revisionary history" being circulated today, that distorts the true facts. I have a friend that is married to a woman that was born in a foreign country and as a child, she was taught that the electric light bulb was invented in China!
 
   / This is just plain WRONG!! #54  
"I got a whole lot more tractor for less money with my CK20."

I don't know what you paid for your CK20, but when I bought my BX22 last year, it was $4,000.00 less than a comparably equipped CK20.
 
   / This is just plain WRONG!! #55  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( "I got a whole lot more tractor for less money with my CK20."

I don't know what you paid for your CK20, but when I bought my BX22 last year, it was $4,000.00 less than a comparably equipped CK20. )</font>

Good luck with your "glorified lawn tractor" /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / This is just plain WRONG!! #56  
Is that supposed to be an insult?
 
   / This is just plain WRONG!! #57  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Is that supposed to be an insult?)</font>

Apples and Oranges /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / This is just plain WRONG!! #58  
Freight cost are not averaged in the tractor world. They are zoned the farther away from port of entry the more you pay for freight at least this is what NH does.
 
   / This is just plain WRONG!! #59  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( (Is that supposed to be an insult? ))</font>

If you have to ask the question, then it doesn't matter. I wouldn't have been so benevolent answering him!! /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif I also own a BX22 /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif His plastic toy would have 4 flat tires by now!!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I don't get angry, I get even!!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif I also wouldn't call a Kioti a "apple" in his "apples and oranges"..... I would call it a <font color="yellow"> LEMON </font> and <font color="orange">ORANGE </font>
 
   / This is just plain WRONG!! #60  
With an airbag!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 

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