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Just bought a sawmill. That can't help much with plywood and OSB but in the short time I've had it I have a substantial pile of posts and 2x stuff and my son-in-law has a pile too. His is all cedar. Conventional wisdom is that a hobby mill will not pay for itself for the average individual and ours probably won't....but with high lumber prices we have already made a substantial bite in our initial outlay.

I have an open carport planned. I plan to sheath the roof under 5v metal roofing. Instead of OSB I will use 3/4" pine board. So in some situations you can get around plywood and OSB.
There was a time there was no plywood or Osb. Things got built with just lumber.
 
   / This place controls just like google does. #83  
There was a time there was no plywood or Osb. Things got built with just lumber.
There was a time when there was no lumber. Things got built with log walls and dirt for a floor. That doesn't mean that it was better, or even as good.
 
   / This place controls just like google does. #84  
There was a time there was no plywood or Osb. Things got built with just lumber.
The house I live in is pre-plywood. The roof sheathing is boards on the diagonal. The floor underlayment is as well. Super strong. All of the lumber is actual dimension (2x4 =2"x4") and all of it is square edged. All of the wood is very hard and has very tight grain. Exterior window sills went without paint for 5 years before I bought the house. Still hard as a rock. Zero rot.

We added a screen porch on the back about a story off the ground. Contractor used treated 'yellow wood' for the stair stringers. They were rotten in 8 years. And when I say rotten I mean you could literally poke your finger through one. This happened half way up, not at the ground.

My cabin has OSB floor underlayment and roof sheathing. It has held up very well and is very sturdy even though it got rained on repeatedly during construction. (We only had weekends to work on it.) So I'm not knocking OSB or plywood. Great stuff. But the prices are simply insane. So with the sawmill available my upcoming projects will have to do without OSB or plywood. (I'm also lucky to have nearly unlimited pines as far as my wildest project ambitions go.)
 
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Boy, did this thread go off topic...for the better in my humble opinion...
 
   / This place controls just like google does. #87  
Way down in the definition of 'love' there's something about affection for a thing or activity....

For example:

her love of the theatre or his love of books.



At my old job, I spent about 30 years working on various generations of laser typesetters. Honest to goodness, I loved those machines. It was weird. 🤣 When they outsourced production and let us all go, and I knew they were heading for the scrap heap, and it was my last night on the 30 year job, I gave them a final touch for a few moments, ran my hands across the joints and seams and control panels, and shed some tears as I turned out the lights and walked away.

I think it was because the machines were so logically thought out before they were constructed, worked almost flawlessly for years, pumped out production, and could be counted on way more than the humans to just do their job and not complain. Plus, they fed my family, gave me a couple houses, 20 acres of land, and put my kids through school. They were works of art, and I miss them. ;)
 
   / This place controls just like google does. #88  
The house I live in is pre-plywood. The roof sheathing is boards on the diagonal. The floor underlayment is as well. Super strong. All of the lumber is actual dimension (2x4 =2"x4") and all of it is square edged. All of the wood is very hard and has very tight grain. Exterior window sills went without paint for 5 years before I bought the house. Still hard as a rock. Zero rot.

We added a screen porch on the back about a story off the ground. Contractor used treated 'yellow wood' for the stair stringers. They were rotten in 8 years. And when I say rotten I mean you could literally poke your finger through one. This happened half way up, not at the ground.

My cabin has OSB floor underlayment and roof sheathing. It has held up very well and is very sturdy even though it got rained on repeatedly during construction. (We only had weekends to work on it.) So I'm not knocking OSB or plywood. Great stuff. But the prices are simply insane. So with the sawmill available my upcoming projects will have to do without OSB or plywood. (I'm also lucky to have nearly unlimited pines as far as my wildest project ambitions go.)

We too live in a house constructed from full sized lumber. Our previous house was logs. we Also have a parcel of land with lots of sawmill quality trees.

Plywood a OSB definitely have an important place in construction materials.
 
   / This place controls just like google does. #89  
There was a time when there was no lumber. Things got built with log walls and dirt for a floor. That doesn't mean that it was better, or even as good.
Don’t forget the sodies, rock houses or snow houses.
 

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