Thoughts on this grapple from a local dealer?

[FTG-05]

Yes it was a serious question. Most people just think a coupling is a coupling. I'd say the vast majority of what is used and sold for ag stuff is single-way sleeve. Still gets breakaway and the handed unhook if clamp mounted. Only thing you lose is one handed hookup.

I don't know you from Adam. So yes it was a serious question.

Sorry, it was attempt at humor - at my expense, not yours.

To answer your question: No, I wouldn't know a two-way sleeve coupler if it walked in here and bit me on the butt.

Going through the Discount hose site as we speak. I can tell you right now I'm looking for the ISO-5675 ag couplers in the 1/2" size.

Now I need to know where I can get what I believe is a bulkhead mounting plate/block so I can do one-handed coupling/uncoupling and have breakaway capability. (Sure as heck if I don't have breakaway, sooner or later I'll forget to uncouple - and it probably won't be pretty).

 

[FTG-05]

I would be willing to bet many on here don't understand what you mean by "breakaway" and "one handed coupling". To be honest with you I didn't either until a few years ago when I got serious about understanding how the couplers worked and the differences in them. When I got my first 2 way air coupler I was in "hog heaven" and wondered why in heck I didn't get these sooner. A picture, or in this case a video would be worth a thousand post's.

I have no clue what they are either - but I want'em anyway.

 

[k0ua]

I have no clue what they are either - but I want'em anyway.

Would you like me to take a stab at explaining it?

 

[LD1]

A coupler sleeve is the part you pull on to hook/unkook the coupling.

On a standard coupler, the sleeve ONLY pulls one way. Back towards the hose it is connected to.

So if you look at the sleeve in relationship to the body of the coupler, the sleeve goes back.....or the body goes forward.

Well, if you mount the coupling by the sleeve, then pull on the plug/hose that is connected to it, it pulls the whole body forward (just like pulling the sleeve back), and you can uncouple just by pulling on the hose. Thus one handed/breakaway.

Try this next time.....take your air hose, and instead of pulling back on the sleeve to release your air tool, just hold it by the sleeve only, and pull on the air tool........thats what clamp mounting via sleeve will get you.

Now a two way sleeve......the sleeve can release the coupling by sliding it EITHER direction. Where as a standard coupling, like most air hoses the sleeve is only allowed to go one way.

Only real benefit is if clamp/bulkhead mounted by the sleeve. Then the motion of pushing the plug into the coupler body, makes the sleeve slide forward and allows connection. Pulling out slides the sleeve backwards allowing disconnection.

 

[k0ua]

A coupler sleeve is the part you pull on to hook/unkook the coupling.

On a standard coupler, the sleeve ONLY pulls one way. Back towards the hose it is connected to.

So if you look at the sleeve in relationship to the body of the coupler, the sleeve goes back.....or the body goes forward.

Well, if you mount the coupling by the sleeve, then pull on the plug/hose that is connected to it, it pulls the whole body forward (just like pulling the sleeve back), and you can uncouple just by pulling on the hose. Thus one handed/breakaway.

Try this next time.....take your air hose, and instead of pulling back on the sleeve to release your air tool, just hold it by the sleeve only, and pull on the air tool........thats what clamp mounting via sleeve will get you.

Now a two way sleeve......the sleeve can release the coupling by sliding it EITHER direction. Where as a standard coupling, like most air hoses the sleeve is only allowed to go one way.

Only real benefit is if clamp/bulkhead mounted by the sleeve. Then the motion of pushing the plug into the coupler body, makes the sleeve slide forward and allows connection. Pulling out slides the sleeve backwards allowing disconnection.

You did a very precise job of explaining it. And saved me a buttload of typing.

 

[LD1]

Hopefully everyone can picture what I was saying.

If not, perhaps tomorrow when I get off work, I can take some pictures depicting the two-way sleeve operation for those that still cannot picture what I was describing

 

[LD1]

Not to hijack your thread....but those that are following this that have a 3rd function or diverter up front....what's the standard. Do you use ISO 5675 ag couplers on the front of the tractor? Or is SS flat face couplers the norm, since its most likely to be used with ssqa attachments?

And what's the standard size? Still 1/2"? And is the norm also to have one female body and one plug on the tractor side, and same on the attachment? Or is it like rears where both female bodies are in the tractor and both plugs on the attachment?

I can do it however, cause I'll likely only have a grapple. But know alot of guys with skid steers and would be nice to borrow a 4n1 bucket, or any other of a dozen attachments and not have bass ackwards couplers.

And I'll just keep the extra two sets of 5675's as spares for the rear.

 

[k0ua]

Here are my thought on the type and sex of connectors. I have AG's, because they are cheap and available anywhere. Also i don't anticipate putting any Skid steer implements from someone else on the tractor, and If I did, a set of adaptors would not be hard to make up. I subscribe to the one male and one female because they cannot be mixed up, and also so the grapple hoses can be plugged together to keep out dirt and water when it is stored away. Those are my thoughts, and you may have different ones.

 

[LD1]

I have no thoughts or preferences. Just want to stick with industry standards, that way I don't have to replumb anything anytime I want to hook up to a new attachment, or get to remember where I left a set of adapters at

 

[Fallon]

Photos would still be nice, but that was a nice explanation.