Time for Chainsaw Chaps

   / Time for Chainsaw Chaps #142  
I'm a believe that a sharp chain makes a safe saw. I try to sharpen my chain after each use.
I like to run a file across the chain at least every other tank full. It's when I'm just using it for a few minutes at a time that it gets dull. Right now it's pseudo sharp as I haven't had time to file it properly, after bouncing my brand new chain off a nail when I was trimming a board in my pig pen.

To each their own, I guess... although the mesh face shield isn't just for a kick-back but for a wood-chip/debris being propelled at your face & eyes. Same for the ear defenders. Seeing as they're both attached to a helmet, I'll wear the helmet too.

And not just for chain-sawing. I wear my helmet with the ear & face protection deployed for wood-chipping and brush-cutting.

I wear two sets of hearing protection when running saw; plugs under the muffs, otherwise by the end of the day I wouldn't be able to hear. I just wish that I had started doing it 50 years ago, my hearing might not be so bad today. Like so many other things, some people seem to be more prone to hearing loss than others. When helping with firewood my father and I would be wearing ear plugs while my BIL didn't; yet doesn't seem to have suffered from hearing loss whereas my father wore hearing aids and I will need them at some point.
 
   / Time for Chainsaw Chaps #143  
I've never read more bovine dung in my life...

I know, Mate, I know... that's why I've stopped responding to Industrial Toys comments. On this subject, at least.

Mind you his responses have only gone on to support, not denigrate, everything I've said. :)
 
   / Time for Chainsaw Chaps #144  
More safety facts I can prove, which has made me very, very smart.

Aircraft have got so many ridiculous safety features in them now, I've been forced to jump out of them, just to get back onto the ground again.

Blood alcohol studies and laws have got it all wrong. I drive my motor vehicle better, the more I've consumed!

Automotive seat beats obviously don't work and I'm proof of that. I've jumped out of every car I've owned just before it crashed!

Safety just gear makes smart people do stupid things on Ytube.

The HIGHER you fall onto your head, the less it hurts.

Arly, having another dizzy spell so I can no longer think straight,,,,, A
 
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   / Time for Chainsaw Chaps #145  
I love the mesh face shield with ear muffs.

Used to use ear plugs and safety glasses.
What a pain. Ear plugs are always dirty if you stop and take a break or set them down once. Better have another pair.

And safety glasses are easily lost, or end up scratched with reduced visibility, and the worst thing about them is you're operating the chainsaw blind once you start sweating and they get smeared or fogged.

Don't you guys ever run a saw long enough to break a sweat?
 
   / Time for Chainsaw Chaps #146  
Hearing loss is cumulative.

What?

I said hearing loss is cumulative.

Oh, it's down the hall to your left.
 
   / Time for Chainsaw Chaps #147  
We will operate saws and whackers up to about 80 degree temps and occasionally for over 10 hours. But less than 8 is more of a normal day for us in the woods. If the humidity is high, then 80 can't be done in our book. To control sweat, we wear headbands along with our sawyer helmets. To control fogging of safety glasses, we wipe them with anti-fog chemicals which is a big help. We wear ear plugs which cost little by the box and bring extra's into the field with us all the time. Does that help?

I love the mesh face shield with ear muffs.
Used to use ear plugs and safety glasses.
What a pain. Ear plugs are always dirty if you stop and take a break or set them down once. Better have another pair.
And safety glasses are easily lost, or end up scratched with reduced visibility, and the worst thing about them is you're operating the chainsaw blind once you start sweating and they get smeared or fogged.
Don't you guys ever run a saw long enough to break a sweat?
 
   / Time for Chainsaw Chaps #148  
Does that help?

:thumbsup: :D

So in addition to saw, files, stump vise, wedges, hammers, chains, peavey, chaps, gloves, gas, mix, oil, scrench, waterbottles, etc.. instead of just one face shield/ear muff, now I also have to remember:
Box of ear plugs, box of safety glasses, anti-smear wipes, and oh yeah, a headband!

Great!
Just great! Now I look like this!
Headband.jpg

p.s. I always wonder when people on TBN show off the scabbard they made for carrying their chainsaw on their tractor as to where they carry the rest of the stuff?
 
   / Time for Chainsaw Chaps #149  
:thumbsup: :D

So in addition to saw, files, stump vise, wedges, hammers, chains, peavey, chaps, gloves, gas, mix, oil, scrench, waterbottles, etc.. instead of just one face shield/ear muff, now I also have to remember:
Box of ear plugs, box of safety glasses, anti-smear wipes, and oh yeah, a headband!

Great!
Just great! Now I look like this!
View attachment 608930

Nobody's saying that you have to. He just listed what he uses, and unlike most of us he runs a saw for a living. I don't have the problems you describe with ear plugs; I carry a small bag to put them in when I'm not wearing them. I also get so accustomed to wearing them that I often don't bother taking them out; and can hold a normal conversation while wearing them.

I also can't afford to lose any more of my hearing, and wish that I had been more careful in my younger years.
 
   / Time for Chainsaw Chaps #150  
Nobody's saying that you have to.

I don't have to? Whew! Thank God! Thaaaat's a relief!
I was worried what the neighbors were going to say. :eek:

....but seriously... I was just babbling on about, and having some fun with, my personal preferences too, and what I perceive as advantages/disadvantages, like 90% of the comments here on TBN. Different strokes/different folks. No problem.
I have a feeling my "Doesn't anybody break a sweat?" comment came off as a bit snarky. It wasn't personal. Sorry 'bout that.
 
   / Time for Chainsaw Chaps #151  
^^^
No problem. It just seems more and more that people feel that you should do it just the way they do. At the end of the day the objective is to get the job done with no blood loss... rather difficult here right now during black fly season.
 
   / Time for Chainsaw Chaps #152  
Answers to some questions posed here: Washing chaps can make them less effective, (it's detailed in the owner's literature that comes with most brands of chaps), because the safety is in the fibers in the chaps getting caught up in the chain's teeth, and thus stopping the 88 feet /second travel speed of the chain* from doing damage like the op experienced. When washed the fibers tend to mat down vs. being fluffier and the result is less effectiveness. Same with if they get real dirty or greasy/oily.

I noted a number of people in this thread said their accidents or close calls with chainsaw chains occurred when they were tired or too tired.
This is worth paying very close attention to. Using a chain brake when starting, changing location, or position, etc. is a very good, 'best practice' detail that can help prevent serious injuries from chainsaws.

Also, taking frequent breaks in one's work to cool off, drink water to keep hydrated. etc. can keep one's 'situational awareness' at a maximum.
I also try to never work alone with a chainsaw, even for a 'few quick cuts'.
Think about how a chainsaw functions. It is designed to make mincemeat out of wood at a very rapid pace. It turns wood into saw chips instantaneously and thus treats skin and bone the exact same way. It does not discern the difference between wood and flesh.
Because of the type of spacing of chain teeth they cut skin by ripping it to pieces which means that one's chances of bleeding out before making it to the ER are also increased, and that doesn't even take into account the shock factor.

As the OP said, he didn't even know he had cut his knee until he saw the blood.
So, knowing everything one can about how one's saw and it's chain function, knowing best practice handling of the saw, wearing ALL recommended safety gear WHENEVER using a saw, all reduce the likelihood of a catastrophic incident.

Technically, the chainsaw chain should come to a rapid halt on it's own within a few seconds of the trigger being released. If it does not, or continues to run around the bar, then the saw is out of adjustment and needs to be serviced before further use.

One way to stop the chain even faster, aside from applying the chain brake, is to purposefully touch the bar/chain to a piece of wood within easy reach of the saw, using all the necessary precautions against kickback/rollback, etc.

Here's the facts Jack:
From Google inquiry as to speed of a chainsaw's chain~

"The piston ring speed on the average chainsaw travels 2,500 surface feet per minute. A chain slides across the surface of the sawbar rail at around 5000 feet per minute. The chain is moving at 55 to 60 m.p.h. or a mile per minute ( 88 feet per second* ).

One last thing; anyone considering the cost of chaps should seriously consider the cost of a visit to the ER to triage their torn knee, leg, calf, etc. Essentially NO comparison, IMHO.

Here's to the OP~ Sorry for your unfortunate loss to your saw's chain. Thankfully it wasn't worse. Get well soon and be safe in future.:thumbsup:

Coyote said it well.

I got in the habit of using the chain brake and got some chaps when a friend suffered the same injury to his knee. I use them less when bucking wood on the ground as the saw can only go thru the log and hit the ground. And ear plugs work just fine; 33 decibel reduction and I can still be aware of my surroundings. And I like my hardhat. It may not stop injury but it will sure reduce it.

I've been using chainsaws for 40 years and they still scare me.
 
   / Time for Chainsaw Chaps #153  
I have always worn safety glasses and hearing protection when using my chainsaws. I have finally "seen the light" and wear chaps all the time and a helmet most of the time. The helmet has saved a lot of bumps and scrapes on my head as I climb around storm damage and scope out the situation. The only problem I have with the face mesh is forgetting it is there, and then spitting (makes kind of a mess).

Doug in SW IA
 
   / Time for Chainsaw Chaps #154  
Just so everyone knows the saw accident statistics. There are 30,000 per year for chainsaws in the USA and the cuts are located approximately 50% above and below, your belt line.
 
   / Time for Chainsaw Chaps #155  
My problem is that googles fog up, either from sweat or rainwater.
That is why they have the mesh, it doesn't fog up.
It's also useful when pressure washing to keep the crud out of your face.

Aaron Z
 
   / Time for Chainsaw Chaps #157  
And if you get into a fencing match!

:laughing:

The only fencing that I've tangled with was barbed wire, and I'm not sure how a screen would have protected my legs. ;)
 
   / Time for Chainsaw Chaps #158  
It happens, safety equipment reduces the severity of injuries. Luckily only the skin. Brought the saw too close to my body before the chain had stopped. Ruined a nice pair of Carharts.
Chaps 1.jpgChaps 2.jpgChaps 3.jpgTree 1.jpg
 
   / Time for Chainsaw Chaps #159  
I hate that. The CARHARTS don't heal.

Like a gun, don't put that bar near anything you don't want to cut. Really, how hard is that?
 
   / Time for Chainsaw Chaps #160  
I hate that. The CARHARTS don't heal.

Like a gun, don't put that bar near anything you don't want to cut. Really, how hard is that?

Why it's as easy as a diet! Don't eat more calories than you burn. Really, how hard is that?

....:rolleyes:

(p.s. Guess which "easy one" one kills more people.)
 

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