thcri
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With the R4 tires which type of chain would be best. I heard there is some spacing issues with different types of tires?
murph
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Henro
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<font color="blue">I did not want to spread wheels. However, for standard chains such as those on tirechains.com, you must add 1.5" flange to have room at inner fender. </font>
This actually is NOT the case with R4s on a B2910, which is the same tractor as the B7800 you have. It IS the case though, if one has turfs, which are a wider tire than the R4s. I have standard 2-link ladder chains on my B2910 and they do work OK, although the clearance is close. Actually used them all year this year, with all the rain we were getting. Both mud and snow is not an issue. (I just realized I already said this in a post above, which I thought was in a different thread. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif )
<font color="blue"> With the R4 tires which type of chain would be best. </font>
Murph,
While the 2-link ladder chains I got are better than no chains, I don't like them that much because about half of each cross link lays in between the lugs and is probably useless.
I would think a duro grip style chain would have to be a lot better. I couldn't find that style in my size when I was looking, and ended up with what I got. With turfs the ladder chains would work a LOT better than they do with R4s. That's my best guess anyway.
My neighbor runs ladder chains on his ag tires, and they are amazingly loose and if I had more clearance I would probably run my chains loose on my R4s and see what happened. But that is not an option for me, as the clearance is not there on my B2910 Kubota.
The chains that Thisldoofarm got look pretty good in my opinion. They probably work a lot better than tight ladder chains on R4s like I have. I would not mind having a set of those chains. They do look a bit lighter duty than the 3/8 inch links on that seem common on tractor chains. I don't think I can spring for a set of them though, since I already have something that works for the most part, and especially since they are fairly expensive. Now if I did not have chains already, I would seriously consider them, as they look like they might give reasonable traction and maybe a smoother ride than larger link duro grip style chains would.
I hope I got it right when I am calling that style of chain "duro grip" ! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Some have reported that the duro grip type chains give a pretty bumpy ride compared to ladder type chains...
This actually is NOT the case with R4s on a B2910, which is the same tractor as the B7800 you have. It IS the case though, if one has turfs, which are a wider tire than the R4s. I have standard 2-link ladder chains on my B2910 and they do work OK, although the clearance is close. Actually used them all year this year, with all the rain we were getting. Both mud and snow is not an issue. (I just realized I already said this in a post above, which I thought was in a different thread. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif )
<font color="blue"> With the R4 tires which type of chain would be best. </font>
Murph,
While the 2-link ladder chains I got are better than no chains, I don't like them that much because about half of each cross link lays in between the lugs and is probably useless.
I would think a duro grip style chain would have to be a lot better. I couldn't find that style in my size when I was looking, and ended up with what I got. With turfs the ladder chains would work a LOT better than they do with R4s. That's my best guess anyway.
My neighbor runs ladder chains on his ag tires, and they are amazingly loose and if I had more clearance I would probably run my chains loose on my R4s and see what happened. But that is not an option for me, as the clearance is not there on my B2910 Kubota.
The chains that Thisldoofarm got look pretty good in my opinion. They probably work a lot better than tight ladder chains on R4s like I have. I would not mind having a set of those chains. They do look a bit lighter duty than the 3/8 inch links on that seem common on tractor chains. I don't think I can spring for a set of them though, since I already have something that works for the most part, and especially since they are fairly expensive. Now if I did not have chains already, I would seriously consider them, as they look like they might give reasonable traction and maybe a smoother ride than larger link duro grip style chains would.
I hope I got it right when I am calling that style of chain "duro grip" ! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Some have reported that the duro grip type chains give a pretty bumpy ride compared to ladder type chains...
thcri
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Murph,
While the 2-link ladder chains I got are better than no chains, I don't like them that much because about half of each cross link lays in between the lugs and is probably useless.
I would think a duro grip style chain would have to be a lot better. I couldn't find that style in my size when I was looking, and ended up with what I got. )</font>
Yeah kind of looks like my problem also. The duo-grip is not available in my size. The chains from Willington look like they would work pretty good as displayed on R4's. I just wished they had a price marked for them. I will have to write and see what they say.
Thanks Henro,
Murph
While the 2-link ladder chains I got are better than no chains, I don't like them that much because about half of each cross link lays in between the lugs and is probably useless.
I would think a duro grip style chain would have to be a lot better. I couldn't find that style in my size when I was looking, and ended up with what I got. )</font>
Yeah kind of looks like my problem also. The duo-grip is not available in my size. The chains from Willington look like they would work pretty good as displayed on R4's. I just wished they had a price marked for them. I will have to write and see what they say.
Thanks Henro,
Murph
Ledgemere Farm
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Be sure to check your manual regarding tire chaines on the front. I was looking at some of Deere's four-thousand-ten series manuals on their website, and they caution against using them. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
winchman
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Murph,
My opinion would be to get the 2-link ladder chains for your intended use. I run the 2-link ladders on my kubota B2410 without any tensioners for snow plowing and skidding firewood. I also have R4 tires. I think it is possible to run ladder chains too tight and take away from their effectiveness.
The duo-grips would rattle your teeth on a hard frozen surface and not feel so good on the lower back. I was happy with tirechains.com, but be prepared to properly fit and adjust the chains.
winchman
My opinion would be to get the 2-link ladder chains for your intended use. I run the 2-link ladders on my kubota B2410 without any tensioners for snow plowing and skidding firewood. I also have R4 tires. I think it is possible to run ladder chains too tight and take away from their effectiveness.
The duo-grips would rattle your teeth on a hard frozen surface and not feel so good on the lower back. I was happy with tirechains.com, but be prepared to properly fit and adjust the chains.
winchman
thcri
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</font><font color="blueclass=small">( I am South of Rochester. Three feet of snow now. I ordered the chains via link below. They are on, and do make a world of difference. I run R4 Industrial
http://www.wallingfords.com/aquiline/cut_chains.html
They came in two days. They are made in Norway, and I e-mailed the maker in Norway, and got some answers. They went on easily. Had to cut exactly four links from each face chain. They are hardened boron steel, so you need a cutoff grinder. It is a huge difference on snow. Cannot tell yet about Ice. I also have a weight box. )</font>
Wow, I got a quote today from these guys and I just about fell off my chain, I mean chair. For one set of chains for the back tires only, $758.00 and I would have to drive an hour and a half one way to get them. Compared to the other chains I saw on the internet not the same style was half the price.
So I think I will take my chances this year and hope we have no more ice.
However, I did call the guys at Tirechains.com and was very impressed with their honesty. They told me they really didn't have a good chain for R4's and ice. They looked at the chains I got the guote on and said they would be a good chain for my situation.
murph
http://www.wallingfords.com/aquiline/cut_chains.html
They came in two days. They are made in Norway, and I e-mailed the maker in Norway, and got some answers. They went on easily. Had to cut exactly four links from each face chain. They are hardened boron steel, so you need a cutoff grinder. It is a huge difference on snow. Cannot tell yet about Ice. I also have a weight box. )</font>
Wow, I got a quote today from these guys and I just about fell off my chain, I mean chair. For one set of chains for the back tires only, $758.00 and I would have to drive an hour and a half one way to get them. Compared to the other chains I saw on the internet not the same style was half the price.
So I think I will take my chances this year and hope we have no more ice.
However, I did call the guys at Tirechains.com and was very impressed with their honesty. They told me they really didn't have a good chain for R4's and ice. They looked at the chains I got the guote on and said they would be a good chain for my situation.
murph
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I did call the guys at Tirechains.com and was very impressed with their honesty. They told me they really didn't have a good chain for R4's and ice. They looked at the chains I got the guote on and said they would be a good chain for my situation. )</font>
Murph -
We've got basically the same tractor (I've got a TC33D). There are very limited options for good chains for ice on our tractor with the R4 tires. I wanted duo-grips, but could not find anyone who would make them for our size tire (I'm told the pattern just does not work out well on this size tire). I ended up buying 4-link "V-bar" ladder chains from TireChains.com. I was considering 2-link for a smoother ride, but the 4-link are heavy enough as it is. The 4-link v-bars have worked out well for me. Drove right up a hill in my driveway last year with no problem and that was while dragging a box blade with the scarifiers down trying to crack through the ice (my old Explorer needed a running start at it, it was so icy).
John Mc
Murph -
We've got basically the same tractor (I've got a TC33D). There are very limited options for good chains for ice on our tractor with the R4 tires. I wanted duo-grips, but could not find anyone who would make them for our size tire (I'm told the pattern just does not work out well on this size tire). I ended up buying 4-link "V-bar" ladder chains from TireChains.com. I was considering 2-link for a smoother ride, but the 4-link are heavy enough as it is. The 4-link v-bars have worked out well for me. Drove right up a hill in my driveway last year with no problem and that was while dragging a box blade with the scarifiers down trying to crack through the ice (my old Explorer needed a running start at it, it was so icy).
John Mc
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We have always ran 4 link ladders on our tractor and the cross chains always seem to stay across the lugs , Now and then we may have 1 cross chain fall between and hang their but the others stay put .
I know one thing take em off and try to go and you just sit their spinning . Tires are loaded in rear also .....I see so many complaints about the chains falling between lugs , But we use ladders and WVDOH uses ladders on the graders
Try to post a pic here sorry about the qualty tire veiw was caught as camra was being turned passed tractor .....
I know one thing take em off and try to go and you just sit their spinning . Tires are loaded in rear also .....I see so many complaints about the chains falling between lugs , But we use ladders and WVDOH uses ladders on the graders
Try to post a pic here sorry about the qualty tire veiw was caught as camra was being turned passed tractor .....
thcri
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The Wallinfords as posted above supposedly are great for out R4 tires. However the price made me s**t my pants. So I decided I would not buy this year but maybe next year. I look at it this way, buy the cheaper ones, maybe take it easy and not hurt my concrete or buy the more expensive ones and not worry about my concrete.
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( The Wallinfords as posted above supposedly are great for out R4 tires.)</font>
I've seen those low-profile "square-link" chains in use and they do work well on ice. I was concerned whether they had enough meat to provide grip in deep snow or mud. I've not seen them in that kind of use, and my dealer says he doesn't sell many of them around here.
John Mc
I've seen those low-profile "square-link" chains in use and they do work well on ice. I was concerned whether they had enough meat to provide grip in deep snow or mud. I've not seen them in that kind of use, and my dealer says he doesn't sell many of them around here.
John Mc