Buying Advice Titan backhoe?

[Luke009]

Hi all,

I'm not a knowledgeable user but I'm considering getting a backhoe for my new ck3510. I'm not prepared to spend $$$ and I came across the Titan 6' cat1 backhoe priced at $3400. It comes with a thumb and has choices of bucket size. I know it's made in China but I wouldn't probably put it to work that hard. Any opinions please?

 

[VictorW]

Congratulations on the new tractor. Subframe backhoes are a little pricey but work pretty well. I see you described the Titan as a cat1 backhoe. I assume this means that it connects to the tractor by the 3pt links. This type of hook up can put a good amount of stress on the three point links and more importantly the case of the tractor where the three point links connect. If I remember correctly, any damage done to the tractor that Kioti can say was caused by a 3pt backhoe will not be covered under warranty. Personally, I wouldn't use a 3pt hook up backhoe. I see how my Kioti, KB2375, 7.5 foot backhoe can move my CK30hst around when digging. Other members may have better experience with this type of backhoe and can comment.

 

[haroldy]

I have a woods 3ph backhoe I have used for 26 years on a mf 1020 cut and now a ck 30
and have experienced no problems,,,A little common science goes a long ways
There seems to be a lot of fear generated about problems of 3ph hoes

 

[Luke009]

Hmm... Thanks Harold and Victor. Contrasting views. Certainly a frame attachment would be stronger but perhaps the 3 pt, with the bh side legs, would be enough in normal circumstances. The warranty voiding by Kioti would deny that option, however.
I'm not in the position to pay another 7-8k for a "subframe" bh at this point though. Will dig area with a middle buster and fel.

 

[DK35vince]

Another option, just buying the Kioti sub frame and mounting it to Titan backhoe shouldn't be to hard to do.

 

[jabelding]

If your looking at the titan bk215 it is made by the same company that makes the Kioti backhoes so it should mount right up to a kioti sub-frame if you can get one at a reasonable price. Check Michigan Iron's website they probably have it listed for your tractor.

 

[jabelding]

Looks like around 1200 for the subframe part # LDS04-21300-01 might be your side rails not real clear under your model you might need to call them.

 

[DK35vince]

Looks like around 1200 for the subframe part # LDS04-21300-01 might be your side rails not real clear under your model you might need to call them.

Does that include the mounting brackets that bolt to the tractor ?

 

[jabelding]

Yup about according to the MIE parts website about 670 for the main frame rails 400 for the rear frame mount bracket and 190 for the front frame bracket then about 100 in misc parts so around 1350

 

[Luke009]

Thanks. Yes I was looking at the bk215 (which their rep said may be limit heavy for my ck3510) and also at their smaller 6' bh. Either way, with this frame mount, the total would go to $5000 and I wonder if there are any "tractor-mounted" backhoes (as opposed to 3 pt) starting from that price point. A quick search on "everything attachments" doesn't make it seem so and I'll have to see if the $5000 would be justified for my scope.

 

[jabelding]

The bk215 would be a bit small for your tractor I have the 7.5' on mine and it is just about right. Your only other option would be to buy something used but they are very hard to find.

 

[N2DFire]

Your only other option would be to buy something used but they are very hard to find.

I let a 3PT Woods 750 get away from me on CL the other week and I'm still kicking myself over it. However they are out there, just depends on how "nice" you want & how much sweat equity you're willing to invest.


I know nothing of CT so I Googled & guessed at New Haven for the closest CraigsList location to the OP - found 2 (not sure of mounting on one, other was Skid Steer QA). Not going to win any beauty pageants but a little elbow grease and some metalwork and he's got a subframe mounted hoe for about half what he's looking at now. However that assumes he has the Tools, Time, and Inclination to do so.


I just posted a bunch of links and a video about backhoe subframes in the Attachments section today (too lazy to go through my subscriptions and find them again LOL)
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/383143-backhoe-removal-install.html#post4826885

If nothing else you should read dfkrug's thread on building your own subframe (in the links in the other post).

 

[Luke009]

Thanks a bunch. I'm probably handy with things, I have the tools or could get what's needed, but I have zero time for this. I cannot even keep up with maintenance for all the things around the busy house. So I need to buy new, if I can, or nothing. I think I'm going to confine myself to digging with the buster and fel for now. I did go ahead and ordered several attachments from Titan today (box blade, pallet forks, flail mower) and I'm anxious about quality and fitting issues.

 

[branson3015]

Hello all, new to site but I do own a titan bk 215. The backhoe seems to do a good job as a 3 pt, tho I intend to look into mating it to a sub for my Branson. I got a good deal, they had a Black Friday sale last year, may again this year if you can hold out. I am local to them and drove down to Memphis to pick it up. The customer service was very good, IMO...

 

[MichiganIron]

Just a clarification, KIOTI KB Series Backhoes are manufactured in S Korea by Tausung for KIOTI. Not sure about the direct fit-up of a Titan Backhoe to the KIOTI Subframe.

 

[branson3015]

I believe they are from Korea. I looked on mine and saw no plate of origin, but I do recall they told me it was from Korea the day I picked it up. I've put maybe 50hrs on it, on a 70hp Case and 30hp Branson, and have had no issues.