Dirt Moving Tooth Bar Advice

[jeff9366]

No. I am a seventy year old Florida retiree, who tractors several days per week on 200 acres. I have more time than most to contribute here.

T-B-N is an information site.
The OP is new; he has seven (7) posts. His first post was July 2, 2017. OP is seeking info on grading with a bucket attachment. The Ratchet Rake is a good grader and it is a bucket attachment.

I have had a number of tractors, attachments and implements pass through my stable over the years. The Ratchet Rake remains one of my most used; RR is good many tasks and unequalled for tearing out brush attached to <6,000 pound tractors.

The OP has a light tractor. While the RR is fine on my heavy chassis L3560, it is proportionally more effective on lighter tractors like the OP's B2410.

Now you know.

Have you ever used a Ratchet Rake?

Check this out: ratchet rake - YouTube

 

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The big problem I see with trying to use a loader bucket to do any type of grading work is...you can't see what is happening...also there is no way to change the lateral angle of the bucket...where with a hydraulic (3PH) tilt cylinder you can easily change the angle of a pull behind grading implement...

 

[siman00]

Thank each of you for your advice. I understand that experts often don't agree, so I didn't expect a slam dunk answer.

It seems that the FEL is not going to do what I need, and a rear attachment will do the job better. I am not a rich man, so I will be pushing it to get even a decent box blade.

Given that, what advice do you have on box blades? New vs used? Ripper bars vs no Ripper bars? A land plane would be nice, but one is over my budget, and I'm not sure I have the power or weight to pull it.

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

[Snobdds]

No. I am a seventy year old Florida retiree, who tractors several days per week on 200 acres. I have more time than most to contribute here.

T-B-N is an information site.
The OP is new; he has seven (7) posts. His first post was July 2, 2017. OP is seeking info on grading with a bucket attachment. The Ratchet Rake is a good grader and it is a bucket attachment.

I have had a number of tractors, attachments and implements pass through my stable over the years. The Ratchet Rake remains one of my most used; RR is good many tasks and unequalled for tearing out brush attached to <6,000 pound tractors.

The OP has a light tractor. While the RR is fine on my heavy chassis L3560, it is proportionally more effective on lighter tractors like the OP's B2410.

Now you know.

Have you ever used a Ratchet Rake?

Check this out: ratchet rake - YouTube

Fair enough. Just was wondering. Just a big fan...

 

[jeff9366]

Here is a search of the TBN archive using the term "BOX BLADE FOR KUBOTA B":
Google

 

[KennyV]

Since it is 'near' impossible to ware-out a good BoxBlade look for for the best used one you can find, it will save you some $ and you will have a life long attachment..
If you are limited to one attachment for road work, a boxblade is your best single choice. KennyV

 

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Box blades can have a steep learning curve to successfully accomplish tasks at a satisfying level...especially without the benefit of hydraulic top and tilt...

You see more box blades for sale used than you do other grading attachments...mainly because operators that don't put in the time to conquer the learning curve get frustrated and give up on them...rakes and planes etc. tend to be much more forgiving for an inexperienced operator...

On the other hand a tractor with hydraulic top and tilt and a box blade...even a novice can master the learning curve and do just about anything when it comes to grading and moving earth etc...

Definitely get a box blade with scarifiers/rippers...they are paramount for certain applications (like fixing potholes so they don't come back)...especially in hard packed earth or gravel...

first rule of a box blades is "the heavier the better"...smaller lighter box blades can do most anything a big heavy blade can do it just takes longer and more passes etc...

Good Luck...

 

[ProjectKing]

Hello all. I am the new owner of a used Kubota B2410. It has a 352 FEL and I'm trying to figure out what type of tooth bar, if any to use. I need to maintain about 1200 feet of mostly dirt driveway. The soil is a very sandy loam that has been packed tight and hard by years of traffic. There are shallow "ruts" where the wheels travel with grass in the area between the ruts.

I'm considering a Piranha tooth bar vs a more typical tooth bar. From what I can see, it appears that the Piranha tooth bar is best suited to remove heavy vegetation (which I do not have), while the more traditional tooth bar is better suited to aid in digging. I'm thinking I may be able to use the FEL to cut down the median and backpull that material to fill the ruts.

OR--- Should I forget a tooth bar entirely and get a box blade to use on the driveway?

I'm new to tractoring and will appreciate any help, advice or experience you can provide.

Is your driveway flat? Or is it crowned or have other odd shape?

The best attachment for making a smooth drive is a land plane. However a box blade will do an acceptable job too.

If you have a gravel drive, a ratchet rake does a fantastic job loosening up and refreshing the gravel. It will also rip out the pesky grass that grows in the driveway. Then you can use a box blade to get it nice a smooth.

A tooth bar is not of much use on drive way work. However I prefer the Piranha over a traditional tooth bar. They are excellent for digging with small tractor loaders.

 

[jeff9366]

Fair enough. Just was wondering.

Have you ever used a Ratchet Rake?

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

No. I am a seventy year old Florida retiree, who tractors several days per week on 200 acres. I have more time than most to contribute here.

T-B-N is an information site.
The OP is new; he has seven (7) posts. His first post was July 2, 2017. OP is seeking info on grading with a bucket attachment. The Ratchet Rake is a good grader and it is a bucket attachment.

I have had a number of tractors, attachments and implements pass through my stable over the years. The Ratchet Rake remains one of my most used; RR is good many tasks and unequalled for tearing out brush attached to <6,000 pound tractors.

The OP has a light tractor. While the RR is fine on my heavy chassis L3560, it is proportionally more effective on lighter tractors like the OP's B2410.

Now you know.

Have you ever used a Ratchet Rake?

Check this out: ratchet rake - YouTube

Just turned 70 myself and agree with value of RR and I sing it's praises also. I sing the praises of anything and anyone that is of a bit more than ordinary value and often times also get accused of working for vendors but I don't care. I don't get paid to tell who and what I appreciate and wonder why it bothers some people. Maybe they don't have anything or anyone they value enough to sing their praises.

Since it is 'near' impossible to ware-out a good BoxBlade look for for the best used one you can find, it will save you some $ and you will have a life long attachment..
If you are limited to one attachment for road work, a boxblade is your best single choice. KennyV

I agree even though I think the RR is a great implement for what it does. I believe almost anyone can learn to use the BB effectively with a bit of adjusting of the top link and considered a powered top link but my dealer laughed and said he saw no real value in it and I've not had one for about 14 years so guess I can live without one. I know some people swear by the top n tilt but I believe that is a personal preference. It just makes it easier than adjusting by hand. :2cents: ad that's from never owning one to clarify my experience with tnt which I have none..