Tooth bar question

[wickerbill]

Hey y'all, first off please be gentle with me Ive never posted anything before.
But with help from spell check we will all get thru this :ashamed:.
I have a john Deere 790 with a 419 loader. I live in north central TX.
with hard clay. Will a bolt on tooth bar help digging and general usages ?Thank in advance
for your time.

 

[thatguy]

a compact tractor is NOT really a digging tool, BUT a tooth bar will help when you are scraping up dirt and such..

BUT it will help with loosening up anything you are trying to scoop up.

I love my toothbar and has been a worthwhile investment
Brian

 

[Rustyiron]

a compact tractor is NOT really a digging tool, BUT a tooth bar will help when you are scraping up dirt and such..

BUT it will help with loosening up anything you are trying to scoop up.

I love my toothbar and has been a worthwhile investment
Brian

I'll second this opinion!
It's handy with brush also. Go with a bolt on, I saw one attached with 2 chain binders and chains the other day, what a waste of good tie down hardware!

 

[creekbend]

Go to the SEARCH section at the top of this page and type in TOOTHBARS. There are many threads and posts in regards to your inquiry. BTW, Welcome aboard.

 

[nickel plate]

Let's assume that you will get a toothbar. Before you install it make a few digging passes with your tractor bucket's cutting edge, then install the tooth bar and dig in the same area. Clay or no clay-tooth bars rule.

 

[RoyJackson]

Having owned a 790 w/19 loader and had a toothbar on the bucket, I do suggest you add adequate rear ballast (600-700 lbs or more).

Believe me, it'll be a dramatic improvement!

 

[Mistyridgefarm]

Having read several testimonials here, I just purchased ad JD bolt on bar for my 520 loader. I have spent hundreds of hours using the loader without the bar. I spent six hours this past weekend using the new bar.

Wow, what an improvement! Rock piles were easy. Packed hard ground only a minor inconvenience, instead of an all day job. Original clay with scattered rocks took half the effort with almost no wheel spin compared to plain bucket.

The only drawback was you cannot finish grade with it on! The toothbar has to come off to finish it up. The one I got from JD is VERY heavy!

Thanks to posters here, I have a new favorite attachment.

 

[dex3361]

I am glad nobdy told me you couldnt dig with a tractor FEL till after I moved all that dirt. :laughing: Seriously though a tractor,FEL with a toothbar and a box blade with rippers on the back and you can do a surprising amount of earth work. The tooth bars is a great add on.:thumbsup:

 

[underdog02817]

I'll second this opinion!
It's handy with brush also. Go with a bolt on, I saw one attached with 2 chain binders and chains the other day, what a waste of good tie down hardware!

Just bought one from them. They are now offering a bolt on clamp style, its just not up on the website yet. Just got it yesterday and it is rugged as can be. I have a thread going right now about it......



http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-owning-operating/243127-toothbar-other-accessories.html


I have a BH so it will be to help with digging a little but more so to penetrate material that a straight bucket might be less suited to. I moved a huge pile of wood chips las year and the bucket had a little trouble penetrating the chips, compared to loam or other material at least. I had to make a few curls to get it to fill. I am thinking it is like a flat shovel versus a pitch fork for moving fiberous material like mulch and chips. If you have ever tried it a flat shovel sucks for penetrating mulchy material but a pitch fork goes right in. I am thinking crushed stone will be helped as well. I am sure it will help with backgrading this type of material as well as it will act more like a rake. I found that backgrading the wood chips with the straight blade would bunch up the chips into clumps and roll them. tough to get it smooth.

 

[underdog02817]

I am glad nobdy told me you couldnt dig with a tractor FEL till after I moved all that dirt. :laughing: Seriously though a tractor,FEL with a toothbar and a box blade with rippers on the back and you can do a surprising amount of earth work. The tooth bars is a great add on.:thumbsup:

You said it right there the rippers and toothbar put it over the edge. Still not an escavator, skid steer or bulldozer but I am sure it helps.

 

[wickerbill]

Thank guys, just wanted your thought .didn稚 expect to did to dig to china
Just need a little help now and then. I did do a search but so many hits
Not pertaining to tooth bar .Thank again loves this place.
(My wife does face book, I do tractor by net)

 

[dex3361]

You said it right there the rippers and toothbar put it over the edge. Still not an escavator, skid steer or bulldozer but I am sure it helps.

It beats what I had at the beginig which was a shovel and a mattock. By a long shot.

 

[underdog02817]

It beats what I had at the beginig which was a shovel and a mattock. By a long shot.

Absolutely..........

What I was saying is the toothbar and things that soften the ground make it a whole lot easier and better than a straght edge bucket alone

Trust me I use mine to dig to some degree. More of scraping down areas but for a hole I am lucky to have the BH. One of the reasons I bought the toothbar.

 

[dex3361]

Absolutely..........

What I was saying is the toothbar and things that soften the ground make it a whole lot easier and better than a straght edge bucket alone

Trust me I use mine to dig to some degree. More of scraping down areas but for a hole I am lucky to have the BH. One of the reasons I bought the toothbar.

I would like to have a FEL but I will likely opt for a mini excavator.

 

[dex3361]

I would like to have a FEL but I will likely opt for a mini excavator.

Or at least thats what I want.

 

[Gary Fowler]

Just remember to follow the measurement instructions when ordering your tooth bar. They usually ask for you measurement inside to inside at the cutting blade (front of the bucket) then they will ask you to measure back a certain distance from the edge of the blade and get another inside dimension. This because most buckets are tapered slightly with them being wider at the front than the back. If you measure correctly, your tooth bar will fit like a glove. THey do require drilling 2 holes in your FEL bucket on the side. I had to go with a slightly smaller diameter as I couldnt find a 3/4" bit but 5/8" worked just as good. Never had any problem with it. I just marked the hole by placing the 5/8 bit to the back of the larger hole in the tooth bar and getting a center established, then using a pilot bit drilled the pilot holes. Next I went to the outside to finish drilling as it was much more comfortable to work. Slapped in the 5/8 bolt with nyloc nut and never had to touch it again. Since the bolt just holds it on to keep from coming off, having it at the back of the hole keeps it snug. I snugged the toothbar tightly on the FEL first by slipping it in place then using the FEL and weight of the tractor to push it firmly against the cutting edge on the bucket. The bolt then makes sure it stays tightly seated. All force is on the tooth bar and the FEL cutting blade at the contact points. I installed mine with my battery powered drill and a couple of adjustable wrenches in less than 30 minutes since the sides arent that thick it only took maybe 5 minutes per side to drill.

 

[texasjohn]

Welcome

You need a bolt on toothbar, it doubles the usefulness and capacity of the FEL bucket, IMHO.

Many threads discuss it.

Be sure and install grab chain hooks on FEL...very worthwhile

another possibility is install a receiver for trailer hitches...handy for some.

 

[bullopa]

Thank guys, just wanted your thought .didn稚 expect to did to dig to china
Just need a little help now and then. I did do a search but so many hits
Not pertaining to tooth bar .Thank again loves this place.
(My wife does face book, I do tractor by net)

TBN is the Facebook of the tractor world. I spend far too much time here!

 

[wawajake]

Yes many of us compact tractor owners, that could not afford the back hoe option, do dig with our FEL and do many a ditch , swale, foundation , water holes , ponds, culverts etc etc........and yes the toothbar is night and day advantage difference in hard clays , mine stays on 90% of the time. Also allows you to hold onto things on front of bucket , like logs or pipe.

 

[Randalkurt]

Our soil is easy to dig in, so I added a tooth bar this year. Wow, what an improvement, it has reduced my excavating time considerably. I no longer need to break up compacted soil with the backhoe, and then reposition the tractor to use the FEL.
Randy