Toyota the most dependable vehicle

   / Toyota the most dependable vehicle #61  
I just read this over at another site. The poster is a straight-shooter & moderator, so I seriously doubt that this story has been fabricated.

What is wrong with the Toyota Tundra
 
   / Toyota the most dependable vehicle #62  
So the arguments appear to be:

1) the 3500 is to big.
Wrong......It's a short box quad cab without dual rear wheels, so it will fit in a standard two car garage with another vehicle.
2) It won't climb mount everest without chains.
So what, that's what tractors and ATVs are for. If you want a toy get a jeep. They will out 4x4 any pickup any day due to the short wheel base.
3) It does not get 25 mph.
Come on toyota only claims 18. So if your getting 25 it must be down hill while coasting.

I filled up today with diesel for $1.67 per gallon. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif How about you. Gas has been running 20-30 cents more a gallon around here.
So if worst case we are both getting 18 mph then it costs you
about 15% more to run that toyota.

Maybe if you have a small tractor and buy fert. by the bag then you do not need a real truck, but please do not claim that toyota's are so tuff. They are good trucks for the average guy who does not work his truck. Maybe a few bags of mulch or a 5k lb trailer a couple times a year.
But they are not in the same league as a full size american truck.

Nissian is making progress; the new titans are almost useful. But a 4 door 1/2 ton nissian that burns that expensive gas cost almost as much as the turbo diesel dodge. On top of that you still have alot more towing and payload capability with the dodge. Easy choice IMHO.

Fred
 
   / Toyota the most dependable vehicle #63  
Could be, This is the first I ever heard about something like this . You got my attention thow!
 
   / Toyota the most dependable vehicle #64  
I have never had a 3500 or a TUNDRA. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif If I needed a workhorse It would be a diesel FORD . /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif You sound like my brother about the JEEP. He is a diehard JEEP kinda guy. My 2.7 taco makes 22 mpg sometimes better sometimes not. Fits my needs just rite! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif 87 oct. 1.67 most places around here. NISSIAN Is not or ever has been a TOYOYA. Myself, I would not buy a 3500 diesel 4x4 ta go into the woods or offroad with. I also would not buy a TUNDRA ta pull a monster 5 th. wheel camper, or a big ol load of anything up and over mountain ranges. Its a rite tool for the rite job kinda thing.
 
   / Toyota the most dependable vehicle #65  
"3) It does not get 25 mph.
Come on toyota only claims 18. So if your getting 25 it must be down hill while coasting"

Apparently you do not read my post but jump on to Reply to rebuke my post before even reading it--and RAT also. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

For the record--I am not talking about my Tundra--I am talking about my 1990 4X4 22R powered Toy truck. Gzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. I own two Toyotas and two Kubotas and if I could legal have two wives I would have another as well (just don't let'm find out about the other one /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif).

OK--let me say it again--the little truck does in fact get 25 hiway MPG and actually a bit more and sometimes a bit less--depends. City it does about 21 sometimes less. Over the years it's mileage has gone up and down depending on the particular bumpers and tires and other gear installed. Right now it has no front bumper cuz I ripped it off /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif and has hiway tires which really help mileage. I once had BFG MudTerrains and they were bad on MPG but lasted 60,000 miles. I also had some BFG All terrains, beeter on MPG but not great and lasted I think 80,000 miles. The BFG tires on it now have again I think 50,000 miles. I got 60,000ish miles on the original tires and I don't remeber what they were. Add them numbers up---- /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif. Also--as stated, like most full size--nearly fullsize--over size and giant size pickups MY Tundra is no match for a Toy truck off road. Further--the truck--the Toy truck did cost about 11,500 dollars--Deluxe 4X4 model. Gzzzzzzz the Tundra is only 4 years old--I would have to do a bunch of driving to put 250,000 miles on it in four years---don't think so fellers.

For the record--when people speak of "Toy trucks" they are refering to the SMALL Toyotas and more specifically to those prior to the Tacoma though in my opinion it still qualifies--the Tundra does not.

As to my Tundra--you drive what you want, I like it just fine, been a good vehicle thus far but I do prefer the Toys to the Tundras and could care less about a XXXXX3500.

The feller comparing the Taco---ie Tacoma to a Land Rover was not talking about a Tundra. Toyota has two lines of trucks--the Tundra and the Tacoma--Gzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

J
 
   / Toyota the most dependable vehicle #66  
"I filled up today with diesel for $1.67 per gallon."

Hmmm, I payed cash for the Toy, never paid interest, no payments so essentially it was paid for 14 years ago and still runs like a top--er --Toy and so you might say there is simply no way you are going to beat me at the economy game--I beat you every time you make a payment--every time you need service--every time you need another 3500 (what is that anyways?) and everytime you start the engine. I beat you 200,000 miles ago /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif.

For the record, I drive the Toy nearly everyday to work and back--about 50 miles, it takes the dogs to the vet and does most of the errands--and --trust me--a fill up even with more expensive gasoline is still way less than what you put into the --er--3500. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif.

You guys and I will never agree on these subjects because the things I value are not those that you value--yep--it is true--some people really have no common ground. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif J
 
   / Toyota the most dependable vehicle #67  
We did not misread your post, you simply confused us (nothing new there)
Except that you replied to Phreds post in which he was comparing a Tundra to a 3500. That is where the confusion started. Compare a Toyota Tacoma to a full size, why? The categories are so different it would be like me comparing my L 48 to your BX.
 
   / Toyota the most dependable vehicle #68  
I have been driving Toyotas for years, what first impressed me was the engineering under the hood. No spark plugs trapped, everything easy to get to, etc.
I tried a Chevy S-10, biggest piece of crap I ever owned.
Now I even insist that my Toyotas are made in Japan.

I can't afford to support a bloated auto industry. When America makes a car like my Toyotas, I wil buy one.

And I also firmly believe the American worker can produce a car superior to the Toys, but screwed up management, politics, and greed prevents that from happening. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
 
   / Toyota the most dependable vehicle #69  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( and if I could legal have two wives I would have another as well (just don't let'm find out about the other one )</font>

Did you guys ever see the 60 Minutes interview with the polygamist in Utah with seven wives? I saw the previews and thought he must be the luckiest fellow in the world. But during the interview it turns out that the women had banded together like sisters and he was henpecked every waking hour of the day!

One is enough! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Pete
 
   / Toyota the most dependable vehicle #70  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Never been to WALLY-WORLD! Smart fella! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Some of the finest examples of FREE-STYLE parking can be seen at most bigger store parking lots around here any time or day. )</font>

Just wait till you park in the outer confines of a Wal-Mart parking lot to be away from everyone and come out only to find you have to get in on the passenger side because a airplane is parked too close to allow entry to the driver side !
/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif Admittedly, the airplane was on a trailer - but I should have went back in for a pair of wire cutters /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif !! Just kidding - but when I parked there was'nt another vehicle within 75 yds. of me and plenty better places for him to park other than so close to me a could'nt open a door fully !
 

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