TRACTOR SLUNG PTO SHAFT!!! - PICS.

[Sawyer Rob]

Because with no working pto brake the stub turns constantly so tell us how do you attach a pto shaft to a rotating stub?

Put it in neutral or turn the tractor off... Works every time for me. lol

SR

 

[TexasDigger]

Put the PTO in Neutral.

Lightbulb moment... I will try that when I'm mowing this weekend! My manual only shows two options "540" and "540-E" but if there is a neutral between them, I will see if that lets me push in the clutch & then "clutch" into the PTO engagement which should definitely smooth out the issue! if so, that would have saved quite a bit of headache & I'm sure wear/tear on the gearboxes! None of the orientations or any of the dealers techs etc ever had a solution.. My old tractor let you clutch into the PTO but it only had two settings: ON or OFF(neutral)!

 

[ptsg]

Lightbulb moment... I will try that when I'm mowing this weekend! My manual only shows two options "540" and "540-E" but if there is a neutral between them, I will see if that lets me push in the clutch & then "clutch" into the PTO engagement which should definitely smooth out the issue! if so, that would have saved quite a bit of headache & I'm sure wear/tear on the gearboxes! None of the orientations or any of the dealers techs etc ever had a solution.. My old tractor let you clutch into the PTO but it only had two settings: ON or OFF(neutral)!

If it has those two speeds, it will have a Neutral somewhere for sure. That's the trick to connect PTO shafts on PTOs with brake. Just put it in Neutral and rotate the shaft by hand as needed to connect the PTO shaft.

The PTO valve is just On or Off solenoid, so pressing the clutch shouldn't have any effect whatsoever on the PTO engagement, other than in Auto mode, that might turn the PTO On/off every time you press the clutch.

Some PTO valves on different manufacturers do have a soft start built in. I would imagine yours had that but it's probably more noticeable on implements like a square baler that takes a lot of HP to get it to start moving.

 

[David in KY]

For a new tractor owner, this thread is a real education. Thanks to the OP for the photos and for everyone's comments.

You don't know what you don't know. Lot's of lessons here for the taking.

David

 

[JethroB]

Lightbulb moment... I will try that when I'm mowing this weekend! My manual only shows two options "540" and "540-E" but if there is a neutral between them, I will see if that lets me push in the clutch & then "clutch" into the PTO engagement which should definitely smooth out the issue! if so, that would have saved quite a bit of headache & I'm sure wear/tear on the gearboxes! None of the orientations or any of the dealers techs etc ever had a solution.. My old tractor let you clutch into the PTO but it only had two settings: ON or OFF(neutral)!

My 1975 MF 135 also has a Ground Speed selection for the PTO. PTO spins in direct relation to the ground travel speed. Old school stuff I suppose. Do any modern tractors have that PTO choice?

 

[LouNY]

very few in this country, I believe it is more common on the European market,

 

[ptsg]

My 1975 MF 135 also has a Ground Speed selection for the PTO. PTO spins in direct relation to the ground travel speed. Old school stuff I suppose. Do any modern tractors have that PTO choice?

Most European tractors, like SAME, Antonio Carraro, Deutz, etc, do retain that feature and it's still used a lot in countries with lots of mountains and hills with PTO driven trailers.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Back when I did a lot of small square baling, it sure was nice when the baler plugged, to put the pto in ground speed and back up a little.

I have two AGCO's with the ground speed setting on the pto.

SR

 

[edmoor]

Oh yes, I always drop the rpms down to idle for the RC, and I put gr8 bolt in... it was breaking the gr5's pretty easily hitting minor stuff like ant hills.... Maybe a bad idea but my RC has a nice round stump jumper so it should fold the blades and save itself? I guess from your experience I know I don't want to break the input shaft on the cutter, as stuff will be flailing around!
I have ran a small square baler and it started up pretty smoothly as well. I'd have to look at my service manual tonight, but I'm quite sure there is still a pto clutch, its just engaged hydraulically now when you flick the switch.

Cheap Chinese equipment.you get what ya pay for!!

 

[IndyIan]

Cheap Chinese equipment.you get what ya pay for!!

My Korean tractor? or you mean my rotary cutter? I almost bought an Indian JD but researched why so many were for sale with around 1-200 hours on them and for so cheap...