Tractor Tie Downs

/ Tractor Tie Downs #21  
I do loop it through a clevis with all rounded edges, but I think you're right. Maybe I should use two straps, both attached to the clevis? Then if one is worn or cut, the other will be holding.

So my biggest issue with chains are the ratings and markings. Do I need certified chains and binders with load rating tags on them? Most box store or general chain has markings, but no tag. I've never seen the binders with any load markings or tags. Maybe tagged chain is only for hoisting? I get nervous with this, because technically I am operating this as a commercial enterprise, and want to be DOT compliant.

FYI - typically I only transport my Kubota (estimated load about 4600 lbs) within a 10 mile radius on country roads. The John Deere is in NY, so I no longer need to move anything from state to state.
If you look at a grade 70 chain, it will have a 7 or 70 stamped into the chain every few links. That is how they can tell what rating it is.

Aaron Z
 
/ Tractor Tie Downs #22  
Curious. Does DOT ever consider what the chains/straps are actually attached to and the integrity of that tie down?

There are NO ratings for tie down attachments, they cannot be cracked, broken, or bent. It痴 one of things kinda goes by our judgement.
 
/ Tractor Tie Downs #23  
There are NO ratings for tie down attachments, they cannot be cracked, broken, or bent. Itç—´ one of things kinda goes by our judgement.

Is that inspectorese for "the part of the trailer you tie to"? Most of my trailers have a 3/8 x 2 flat bar rub rail for hooks. Gravity keeps them from unhooking. That's a fair bit of steel to stretch and spring back.
 
/ Tractor Tie Downs #24  
Lol yes where the tie downs attach too, wether it be the trailer, or the tractor side, or whatever your hauling.
 
/ Tractor Tie Downs #25  
I have one commercially built dump trailer that looks like welded with a stick by a five year old. One old Scottish Boat builder and welder I knew just called that SNOT! I'm sure there isn't much substantial to chain onto.
 
/ Tractor Tie Downs #26  
Curious. Does DOT ever consider what the chains/straps are actually attached to and the integrity of that tie down?

I have never seen any ratings on attachment points on smaller trailers meant to be pulled with pickups. On large trailer pulled by semis like my 53’ Fontaine flatbed there are ratings for the rub rail, chain spools, sliding ratchets, etc. I think nearly all semi trailers have ratings on the attachment points.

On smaller trailers I think common sense prevails along with the fact it is fairly difficult to get anything too heavy on the trailer to where the attachment point would be a concern.
 
/ Tractor Tie Downs #27  
Be sure your tractor/equipment/attachments are secured properly but also make sure your weighted tags covers the load you are hauling. I got pulled 4 yrs ago and weighed, was secured properly so not sure what fines are for not being secured but I borrowed a friends tractor and bottom plow that was much bigger than my tractor. My tags were for 15,000lbs and the officer weighed me a little over 21,000lbs, there was no breaks or going to court just pay the fine which was $542.
 
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#28  
I didn't know about the color of the chains (thought it was just for corrosion protection) and verified the chain stamping that aczlan mentioned.

I've always used chains before until this summer. But went to straps for the ease and load tagging. But they never sat well with me. So I bought new 5/16" chains and binders yesterday. One for each corner. I'll use the big straps for the loader bucket and 3pt attachment. Since I have other chain for pulling and such, these will be dedicated to the trailer only. With that configuration I'll have 26,000 lbs of holding strength for a load less than 5000 lbs.
 
/ Tractor Tie Downs #29  
Remember also! You only have to account for half the load. If machine was 5,000 pounds, straps/chains need to be good for 2,500 pounds.

Also, you only get HALF the load limit of a tie down if it goes from anchor point on vehicle to anchor point on article of cargo (TRACTOR)... or if goes anchor point on vehicle, passes through over or around the article of cargo (TRACTOR) and is then attached to an anchor point on the SAME side of the vehicle.

You only get the FULL working load limit of a strap/chain if it goes from anchor point on vehicle through over or around the article of cargo (TRACTOR), and then attaches to an anchor point on the OTHER SIDE of the vehicle.

VEHICLE being trailer.
 
/ Tractor Tie Downs #30  
so the straps with chain hook ends vs chain. a set of 4 straps at $70 each is the same price as a 4 pack of 5/16 chain and binders. I would argue i can do a lot more with the chain and binders that you wouldn't do with the straps especially around the farm. The longevity and durability of the chain means Ill be useing it for the heavy tiedown. For the light stuff straps still have the advantage.
 
/ Tractor Tie Downs #31  
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I run this end through the stake pocket to eliminate strap wear when securing my subcompact. i also have slip on strap protectors to keep the straps from wearing if they are rubbing an edge elsewhere.
 
/ Tractor Tie Downs #32  
I’ve never had issue with the straps wearing at the trailer stake pockets. I usually use 1 strap per corner to avoid touching anything else with the strap. If touching is inevitable I use some cardboard to protect the strap.
 
/ Tractor Tie Downs #33  
I use both, and differs with the application. I have used 6' chain with steel J hooks on every wheel, just recently I purchased two 31" straps for the front axle to keep from scratching and then 2 J hooks on the backhoe mounting plating. New York is a every wheel chain tiedown plus strapping your loader and backhoe bucket down to the trailer also. I chain and strap like I did hauling steel, you can never use too many hold down devices.
Speaking of this, hauling wasn't my problem two weeks ago, I drove to my daughters house in Brunswick with my new YT235 Yanmar to pull out posion Sumack trees probably 30 or so. She lives on a hill in front of her home like 30 degrees, I parked facing down hill on the oncoming side wheels turned towards the grass. Unchained tractor, started and proceeded backwards, I had the sensation of really flying in reverse but I was mistaken. The rear tractor wheels were on the beavertail at the time of the speed sensation, the pickup truck back wheels were up in the air rolling forward on the front tires.
The whole truck, trailer, and tractor were rolling down the hill with the front tires turned the unit jackknifed on the neighbors lawn with the trailer jamming into truck bed smashing it into the frame. Thank goodness it did, or more damage would have ensued. Lesson, always chock all of the wheels, never unload on a hill, and lastly, put the truck in 4 wheel drive. Four wheels in park would have been a better situation. After one week, my son fixed trailer, and changed tire sliced by head rack, luckily the brand new tractor wasn't hurt or damaged, but, when I reloaded the trailer, I loaded it up on top of the hill on a flat surface all blocked up. I'm in the process of adding crank jack's on the rear to control the weight compression lifting the pickup truck. I feel foolish for admitting this, but if I can give someone pause before they make a mistake and get hurt or killed and prevent damage.
 
/ Tractor Tie Downs #34  
New York is a every wheel chain tiedown plus strapping your loader and backhoe bucket down to the trailer also.

Please explain what you mean by “ every wheel chain tiedown”?

If your backhoe and of front end loader can be locked in the up position by a pin or latch mechanism, you do not have to tie it down. This is handy for those with short trailers.
 
/ Tractor Tie Downs #35  
Please explain what you mean by “ every wheel chain tiedown”?

If your backhoe and of front end loader can be locked in the up position by a pin or latch mechanism, you do not have to tie it down. This is handy for those with short trailers.
Each wheel is supposed to be chained or strapped, so 4 tires 4 chains or straps, up in Washington county it used to be $100 fine for each wheel NOT chained or strapped could be more now in 2018
 
/ Tractor Tie Downs #36  
Please explain what you mean by “ every wheel chain tiedown”?

If your backhoe and of front end loader can be locked in the up position by a pin or latch mechanism, you do not have to tie it down. This is handy for those with short trailers.
In addition, to the wheels, the loader and backhoe must be fixed to the trailer, I just ran straps over both and tied down. I live in a small town, and doesn't take much to be remembered from the Sheriff's Dept, so I try and be as legal as I can be.
 
/ Tractor Tie Downs #37  
If you are saying that the strap/chain has to physically connect to the tire, this is wrong. Or that the number of tires changes anything, that’s also wrong.

Like I stated before, federal regs 49 CFR state that you must secure half the weight of the object. If the machine is under 10,000 pounds you only need one strap in front, and one in rear, appropriately sized.

If said equipment is over 10,000 pounds you must use 4 points of securement, appropriately sized.

Amount of tires has nothing to do with anything. Whoever told you this is not a commercial vehicle inspector, maybe they were making up rules to write tickets, but there’s no such thing.
 
/ Tractor Tie Downs #38  
In addition, to the wheels, the loader and backhoe must be fixed to the trailer, I just ran straps over both and tied down. I live in a small town, and doesn't take much to be remembered from the Sheriff's Dept, so I try and be as legal as I can be.

No they do not. If an attachment can be secured by locking it in place, it does not have to be tied down.
 
/ Tractor Tie Downs #39  
If you are saying that the strap/chain has to physically connect to the tire, this is wrong. Or that the number of tires changes anything, that’s also wrong.

Like I stated before, federal regs 49 CFR state that you must secure half the weight of the object. If the machine is under 10,000 pounds you only need one strap in front, and one in rear, appropriately sized.

If said equipment is over 10,000 pounds you must use 4 points of securement, appropriately sized.

Amount of tires has nothing to do with anything. Whoever told you this is not a commercial vehicle inspector, maybe they were making up rules to write tickets, but there’s no such thing.
So you're saying federal regs supersede new York state laws?
 
/ Tractor Tie Downs #40  
So you're saying federal regs supersede new York state laws?
I had my trailer in front of the hardware store couple years ago, and John from John's towing came out and said you better put two more chains on that tractor and straps on your loader backhoe, unless I like paying fines to Washington, county, have a to go up to Ft Edward tomorrow and check on pistol permit, will check on county and state laws for towing. I wasn't trying to comment on federal regulations.
 

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