I have your exact tractor, I use a 16' flat bed with a 2' dove tail for a total of 18'. Fits great. Dual axles with brakes on at least one, mine has brakes on both. I would not pull it on less than this, nor would I pull it without brakes on the trailer.
Trailer for BX23
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radair
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What's the consensus on trailer brakes? A couple replies have been strongly advocating them. Obviously they're a good idea, but are they mandatory?
My dealer delivered my BX on a 12' trailer with the FEL hanging over the front and BH off to the side as described above. The guy said the trailer did not have brakes when I asked him about it, and he didn't seem like it was a big deal.
I don't expect to do much trailering, but I'd like to know what to look for in case an opportunity presents itself.
My dealer delivered my BX on a 12' trailer with the FEL hanging over the front and BH off to the side as described above. The guy said the trailer did not have brakes when I asked him about it, and he didn't seem like it was a big deal.
I don't expect to do much trailering, but I'd like to know what to look for in case an opportunity presents itself.
Junkman
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Brakes aren't important unless you care about stopping distances and safety. Most states now require brakes on all trailers at a certain weight point. I believe that NY is the lowest around 2000#. Homeowners insurance, nor your cars insurance will pay for damage to the tractor in the event of a accident while trailering it, so why take the chance???
Bird
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Like Junkman said, most states have laws requiring trailer brakes on trailers over a certain weight. I think about 4,000 pounds, plus or minus some, is common. Over 30 years ago, the federal government was recommending states pass laws requiring trailer brakes on any trailer that weighed more than 40% of the weight of the vehicle pulling the trailer. I've pulled lots of different trailer and trailer weights, both with and without trailer brakes, and naturally, you can do without the brakes, but it sure is safer and more comfortable with them. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Scrounger
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Junkman
I have USAA insurance and they cover the trailer and contents while towing. I have a 'problem' towing snowmobiles once and all was covered.
I have USAA insurance and they cover the trailer and contents while towing. I have a 'problem' towing snowmobiles once and all was covered.
I've towed my BX22 on a 12' 5000 lb. trailer and while it did fit (barely), it just didn't "feel" right. That could be due to a number of things but I suspect it was because the weight wasn't distributed properly (not enough tongue weight?). At minimum, I would go with a 14' tandem axle with brakes, but a 16' would be better for proper weight distribution.
12 foot trailer is indeed tight and when I used one that I borrowed from a family member as said, it did not feel right. The guy that helped me load it, centered the weight over the axle and it towed terrible. I would much rather have about 60% or a little more of the weight toward the font of the trailer so you have more weight on the tongue, otherwise I have always felt the bounce and sway of the trailer anytime speeds get much over 40 MPH I think if the tractor had been a little more forward on the trailer it would have towed a lot better but on a 12 foot trailer there just wasn't any room to move it forward any further I would think a 14 or 16 for a BX23 would be great.
As far as brakes are concerned I would say it depends on what you are towing it with. My Dodge 1500 truck stopped fine without trailer breaks towing my BX as long as I left a little extra stopping distance. Trailer brakes are nice if you have to stop in a hard breaking situation though. When I get a trailer for my BX I am going to try my best to find a Dual axle, If it has brakes that is a bonus if it doesn't I would not hesitate to tow the BX without them.
As far as brakes are concerned I would say it depends on what you are towing it with. My Dodge 1500 truck stopped fine without trailer breaks towing my BX as long as I left a little extra stopping distance. Trailer brakes are nice if you have to stop in a hard breaking situation though. When I get a trailer for my BX I am going to try my best to find a Dual axle, If it has brakes that is a bonus if it doesn't I would not hesitate to tow the BX without them.
Tom_H
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surfran
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I think in NY it is GVW of 3000 lbs or above (thus 2990 rated units without brakes) or trailer weight itself over 1,000 or 1,200 lbs (I can't remember exactly which one).
All I can say is if you plan to trailer more than a short distance or on a regular basis you should have breaks. You may not have an issue once, twice, twenty times, but if you ever have to stop, you will know that tractor is back there and without the brakes you definately won't stop as quickly.
Also to consider is that if the load is not correct, trailer brakes can save you from an uncotrolled sway.
I wrecked a trailer once which was fully loaded (probably somewhat overloaded) that didn't have brakes and got into a sway. It threw my Ford Expedition all over Interstate 95 and I was lucky not to hit anyone else or roll the thing.
I hope I never repeat that and hope nobody else does either.
Brakes are cheap insurance on both your goods and your life.
Remember it's not just how you drive you have to worry about it's everyone else too.......like that "person" that pulls out in front of you because there is a 30' gap between you and the car in front
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Just some things to think about.
All I can say is if you plan to trailer more than a short distance or on a regular basis you should have breaks. You may not have an issue once, twice, twenty times, but if you ever have to stop, you will know that tractor is back there and without the brakes you definately won't stop as quickly.
Also to consider is that if the load is not correct, trailer brakes can save you from an uncotrolled sway.
I wrecked a trailer once which was fully loaded (probably somewhat overloaded) that didn't have brakes and got into a sway. It threw my Ford Expedition all over Interstate 95 and I was lucky not to hit anyone else or roll the thing.
I hope I never repeat that and hope nobody else does either.
Brakes are cheap insurance on both your goods and your life.
Remember it's not just how you drive you have to worry about it's everyone else too.......like that "person" that pulls out in front of you because there is a 30' gap between you and the car in front
/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
Just some things to think about.
Volfandt
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My BX23 was delivered on a single axle 6x12 w/o brakes. The FEL was resting on the front trailer's railing whilst the BH was angled all the way to one side which allowed the lift gate to close completely. The fellow what delivered it said brakes would be nice but not necessary as long as one is careful!
I too have a 6x12 w/a single 3500lb axle and no brakes and I plan to use it should the need arrise to transport the BX23. The Kubota dealer is within 10 miles as is my other property so I won't hesitate to use my existing trailer.
I'd say if you're going to transport the BX alot with many additional implements (as in going to a job site, etc.) that a larger trailer would be necessary to carry it all easily.
As for brakes, I'm gonna assume that brakes aren't required for a 6x12 single axle in my state as I bought it from a licensed dealer but I do notice that all the double axle trailers I have seen do have them.
If I ever do upgrade to a larger twin axle trailer, it'll have brakes!
Volfandt
I too have a 6x12 w/a single 3500lb axle and no brakes and I plan to use it should the need arrise to transport the BX23. The Kubota dealer is within 10 miles as is my other property so I won't hesitate to use my existing trailer.
I'd say if you're going to transport the BX alot with many additional implements (as in going to a job site, etc.) that a larger trailer would be necessary to carry it all easily.
As for brakes, I'm gonna assume that brakes aren't required for a 6x12 single axle in my state as I bought it from a licensed dealer but I do notice that all the double axle trailers I have seen do have them.
If I ever do upgrade to a larger twin axle trailer, it'll have brakes!
Volfandt
