Trailer questions

   / Trailer questions #21  
My opinion is the length is extremely important. 16' would just not work for me. A 25' deckover
Gooseneck is about perfect and cheaper than a nice dump trailer. Also loading angle is not a factor with a tractor. Who cares if it is steep?

i hear ya. i went years with a 26' car hauler wood deck trailer. I beefed it up and used it for years hauling everything.. the day I got my GN decokover it obsoleted the car hauler so bad I hate to even use it.. I now can't see how I ever did use it on some things.. ;)
 
   / Trailer questions #22  
Some car haulers only have 2- 3500 # axles single axle brakes as in my case. I'm in the process of installing 2 -5200# axles
 
   / Trailer questions #23  
Some car haulers only have 2- 3500 # axles single axle brakes as in my case. I'm in the process of installing 2 -5200# axles

Agreed that many car haulers are configured like that.

Upgrading the axles certainly won't hurt. But, bear in mind that your GTWR does not change. While you could *safely* tow more weight, you can't do it *legally* because the numbers on the label stay the same and only the manufacturer can legally change those numbers.
 
   / Trailer questions #24  
meburdick said:
Agreed that many car haulers are configured like that.

Upgrading the axles certainly won't hurt. But, bear in mind that your GTWR does not change. While you could *safely* tow more weight, you can't do it *legally* because the numbers on the label stay the same and only the manufacturer can legally change those numbers.

Unless you register it now as homemade.
 
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#25  
Agreed that many car haulers are configured like that.

Upgrading the axles certainly won't hurt. But, bear in mind that your GTWR does not change. While you could *safely* tow more weight, you can't do it *legally* because the numbers on the label stay the same and only the manufacturer can legally change those numbers.

That is just like people taking a 1/2 ton truck and putting 3/4 or 1 ton springs on it. The rest of the truck will not take the load.
 
   / Trailer questions #26  
Unless you register it now as homemade.

CT won't let you register a trailer as home made unless you provide the receipts for all of the materials used in the construction. I'm not sure if "previous trailer" with a receipt would qualify... would be interesting to find out, though.
 
   / Trailer questions #27  
That is just like people taking a 1/2 ton truck and putting 3/4 or 1 ton springs on it. The rest of the truck will not take the load.

That's the case at least some of the time. There are some pretty well built 7k trailers that could certainly haul more with beefier axles under them. But those are the exception and not the norm.
 
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#28  
That's the case at least some of the time. There are some pretty well built 7k trailers that could certainly haul more with beefier axles under them. But those are the exception and not the norm.
I noticed on pj trailers the axles can be upgraded on some of them from two 5200# to two 7000# to two 8000#.
PJ Trailers - 6" Channel Equipment (CC)
 
   / Trailer questions #29  
I noticed on pj trailers the axles can be upgraded on some of them from two 5200# to two 7000# to two 8000#.
PJ Trailers - 6" Channel Equipment (CC)


the outfit that built my deckover made their trailers so you could either put 7k or 10k axles under them, and single tandem or dual tandem. same decks and pins and all.. just different axles. IE.. if you get a 14k trailer from them it's extra beefy as it's made to be a 20k... :)
 
   / Trailer questions #30  
I have a 16ft carhauler. It has a solid wood 2x6 treated deck, and a dovetail, and 2 3500lb axles for a 7k capacity, obviously minus the trailer weight leaves about 5500lbs of payload ability.

But for me the lighter trialer is what i wanted, i did not want a 5K landscape dual axle trailer but did not want a heavier duty 7k (heavier empty weight) or a 10k triailer. I have an older truck and its already a good bit of weight with the carhauler, i would not want an additional 500-1000#s just to pull around. I am only loading a 2000lb yanmar on it with a few 4ft attachments at most.
 
   / Trailer questions #31  
I have a 16ft carhauler. It has a solid wood 2x6 treated deck, and a dovetail, and 2 3500lb axles for a 7k capacity, obviously minus the trailer weight leaves about 5500lbs of payload ability.

But for me the lighter trialer is what i wanted, i did not want a 5K landscape dual axle trailer but did not want a heavier duty 7k (heavier empty weight) or a 10k triailer. I have an older truck and its already a good bit of weight with the carhauler, i would not want an additional 500-1000#s just to pull around. I am only loading a 2000lb yanmar on it with a few 4ft attachments at most.

16', fully decked, and its dry weight is only 1500 pounds? I'd say that you have one of the lighter trailers I've found in that category. If it does what you need and is reasonably strong, you've got a good trailer for your need. Most of the stuff I saw in the 6k range (1k lighter than yours) had empty weights that were higher than 1500.
 
   / Trailer questions #32  
i honestly dont know what it weights, i called the manufacturer and they said uhh 1500??

Its made by lone wolf, if anybody knows a better weight for it id love to know.

This is a link to my trailer. Its just like the picture there. I dont have brakes on it, but a plan is to put brakes on one axle.

Standard Car Hauler
 
   / Trailer questions #33  
I have a 18' car hauler with a wood deck, 5' slide in ramps, tool box, and 4,500# winch plus a spare tire and its right at 1,400# leaving 5,600# for cargo. Its a 2004 and has so many miles on it i just put its 3rd set of tires on it back in the spring.

Its a solid trailer that hauls tractors, cars, and trucks as large as a Suburban.

Weight does not equal strength.

Chris
 
   / Trailer questions #34  
clemsonfor said:
i honestly dont know what it weights, i called the manufacturer and they said uhh 1500??

Its made by lone wolf, if anybody knows a better weight for it id love to know.

This is a link to my trailer. Its just like the picture there. I dont have brakes on it, but a plan is to put brakes on one axle.

Standard Car Hauler

I wonder how they get away selling a trailer with that much gvwr and no brakes. around here anything greater then 2000# needs brakes. Not everyone complies but if your close i guess you could plead ignorant but 5500 is stretching it.
 
   / Trailer questions #35  
I have a 18' car hauler with a wood deck, 5' slide in ramps, tool box, and 4,500# winch plus a spare tire and its right at 1,400# leaving 5,600# for cargo. Its a 2004 and has so many miles on it i just put its 3rd set of tires on it back in the spring.

Its a solid trailer that hauls tractors, cars, and trucks as large as a Suburban.

Weight does not equal strength.

Chris

You guys found trailers that give a lot of flexibility for cargo. I just wasn't finding it in my search, so I went 10k. I have more than I need, which really means I can go longer before complaining I don't have enough. lol

I wonder how they get away selling a trailer with that much gvwr and no brakes. around here anything greater then 2000# needs brakes. Not everyone complies but if your close i guess you could plead ignorant but 5500 is stretching it.

It's all about the GVWR. Anything over 2k in CT requires brakes on all wheels. Period. If you don't got it, it don't get registered.
 
   / Trailer questions #36  
i honestly dont know what it weights, i called the manufacturer and they said uhh 1500??

Its made by lone wolf, if anybody knows a better weight for it id love to know.

This is a link to my trailer. Its just like the picture there. I dont have brakes on it, but a plan is to put brakes on one axle.

Standard Car Hauler

Interesting that they don't know.
 
   / Trailer questions #37  
Interesting that they don't know.

I could of been talking to a sales man who i honestly dont put a lot of faith in, as a whole. Im sure i could have asked him to go look it up in the specs, but i just wanted a ball park figure which is what i told him. I was just trying to get an idea for total weight i was pulling, just kind of a gee whiz fact is all. If i remember right i said what do you figure this trailer weighs ball park 1200, 1500, or 1700? I think i said something to that effect??? Had it 3 years all i remember is 1500, thats close enough for what i care.
 
   / Trailer questions #38  
Here in the Ga, SC area most trailers are running without brakes. Most equiptment trailers and car haulers in the 7K and under range dont have brakes, and if they do its only on one axle.
 
   / Trailer questions #39  
Here in the Ga, SC area most trailers are running without brakes. Most equiptment trailers and car haulers in the 7K and under range dont have brakes, and if they do its only on one axle.

It seems that this tends to be driven at the state level. CT is getting tougher on trailers and they're also making it harder to register trailers as "home made". For me, I would never own a trailer like the one I have without brakes. I hauled about 5,000 pounds of firewood logs today and the trailer pulled and stopped very nicely. My total payload was probably about 7500 lbs with the weight of the trailer added in. Dual axle, brakes all around. No issues with stopping at all.
 
   / Trailer questions #40  
Around here they're even cracking down on your class of drivers license for anyone pulling and trailer with a gvw greater than 10k. Also your tow vehicle must be rated for as well.
 

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