Trailer size

[Wirehead]

I'm a new member and looking for some help with a trailer selection. I'm buying a used JD4600 with FEL and BH attachment. I haven't taken the dimensions of the tractor yet but I'm thinking I'll need about a 16' trailer with dual 3500# axles. The tractor specs show about a 3450# weight, unsure about the FEL or BH attachment. Thanks for any input.

 

[Muhammad]

Welcome to TBN.

 

[s219]

I am thinking a 16 footer will probably be too short. I have a much smaller tractor, and needed a 16 footer just to fit the tractor with FEL and box blade. You need enough available length to position the tractor for proper tongue weight. The backhoe will shift the center of mass aft, so the tractor will need to drive pretty far forward on the deck.

 

[gengine]

Welcome! I think your trailer selection would be fine if the length is good. I don't think the BH and FEL will be another 3500#. I put adjustable legs on the rear of my trailer so I didn't bend the frame any more than I already have, but my tractor weighs close to 7000# with the loader and loaded tires. Have fun with your new toy!

 

[whistlepig]

If you are hauling this tractor with the FEL and BH attached 18' might be a bit better. There needs to be enough trailer so that the weight can be distributed evenly over the axles. With the BH and FEL attached there would be no room for adjustment on a 16 footer.

 

[MasseyWV]

I suggest an 18' trailer with dual 3500# axles. A 16' trailer is often too short.

 

[J Coop]

I agree an 18' would work better. My trailer is 18' and the hoe sticks out between the ramps. My total weight on my TLB is around 4400 lb. That's on a L3200 kubota. I think my loader is around 800lb and the hoe is 1300lb. I would siggest 6 lug axles on a trailer. Which are 5200# each and has larger brakes. If your buying new, it never hurts too have a little extra. My trailer is only 5 lug and many times I wouldn't of minded to have a little more. The cost isn't that much more for what your getting.

 

[grnspot110]

I have a JD 790 w/loader & 5' finish mower, just fits on my 16'. Your BH is probably heavier & longer than my finish mower, so 18'+ would probably be a better choice than 16'. Centering weight is not a problem for me since my axles are farther back than most trailers.

Also I'd consider 5000# axles over the 3500#, with trailer weight, & any extra tractor weight (loaded tires or wheel weights), you may be pushing the 3500#'s capacity.

 

[foreman Etexas]

Here's a picture of a L3200 on 18ft trailer,I would go atleast an 18ft with the 5k axles like mentioned above. and this is what it would look like on a 16footer

 

[Hollow]

What will you be using to pull the trailer? If its a half ton truck you need to make sure you have something that not only your tractor and implement fit on but will fit when balancing the weight on the trailer for the proper tongue/hitch weight. I currently have the lighter one of these, it works ok for my 40hp tractor but hope to get the heaver one this summer.

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[Egon]

Go for a 20ft. Trailer with 10k rating. Never hurts to have little more capacity than needed.

My john Deere 4200 with loader and backhoe fits very nicely on my 20 ft. Bumper pull trailer.

 

[toolbox5]

20 ' is perfect i have a 3120 tlb it fits great on my new quality skid steer trailer 9990 gvwr

 

[Wirehead]

Thanks everyone for the help. They say a picture is worth a thousand words, looks like the word is "a 16' is too short". I don't expect to be hauling the tractor a lot but I'd rather not be stressed along the way or make unplanned stops.

 

[Soundguy]

Welcome! I think your trailer selection would be fine if the length is good. I don't think the BH and FEL will be another 3500#.

you are not taking into account the weight of the trialer itself, which is subtracted from cargo capacity.

a 16'; car hauler trailer will weight 1700-2000# depending upon design.

if his tractor is already near 3500 AND has a loader AND a backhoe.. I'd think he's want a 10k rated trailer.. And IMHO.. I'd want 81' minimum.. if not 20' to get the weight right.. then of course.. the proper tow vehicle too.

no ful hauling too much tractor on too short a trailer. I have a ford 850 with laoder that is too much for a 7k/16' trailer.. and no backhoe either..

 

[Briana03]

WELCOME to TBN

I moved your thread to the Trailers & Transportation Forum.

 

[Diamondpilot]

I agree that you need no less than a 18' trailer. I would get slide in ramps versus a gate or fold up ramps because you may have issues with the Back Hoe. Also, trailer height make a big difference in loading. I back my tractor on the trailer because it balances better. Many with BH's complain that they drag when loading so I would get a low boy trailer.

As also mentioned a trailer with 5,200# axles is the way to go. A trailer with them that is 18' to 20' long is going to weight about 2,500# empty. This weight is subtracted from the GVWR so a 10,400# trailer, commonly called a 10K trailer, will have a usable load of 8,000#. The same trailer with 3,500# axles, commonly called a 7K trailer, will have a usable load of about 4,800#.

Chris

 

[jeffsw6]

I find that jacks at the rear of a trailer can be really helpful as well. If buying a new trailer this can be a very inexpensive option that really saves you some headaches. You can load and unload without being attached to a truck, without fear of causing the trailer to tip backwards.

 

[Soundguy]

piece of cheap timber helps back their too..

 

[s219]

I find that jacks at the rear of a trailer can be really helpful as well. If buying a new trailer this can be a very inexpensive option that really saves you some headaches. You can load and unload without being attached to a truck, without fear of causing the trailer to tip backwards.

I thought about welding some jacks to the back of my trailer for this very purpose, but haven't found any that I am real thrilled with. This seems to be the best option so far:

Fulton Drop-Leg Stabilizer Jack with Mounting Channel - Weld-On - 20" Leg - 13" Bracket - Fulton Trailer Jack FSJ1-SJ4

Right now I have been using chunks of a sawed up 6x6 timber under the back of the trailer, and that is working fine. Other than requiring some extra hefting, it does the trick.

 

[Diamondpilot]

I thought about welding some jacks to the back of my trailer for this very purpose, but haven't found any that I am real thrilled with. This seems to be the best option so far:

Fulton Drop-Leg Stabilizer Jack with Mounting Channel - Weld-On - 20" Leg - 13" Bracket - Fulton Trailer Jack FSJ1-SJ4

Right now I have been using chunks of a sawed up 6x6 timber under the back of the trailer, and that is working fine. Other than requiring some extra hefting, it does the trick.

I carry a pair of $12 on sale jack stands in my trailers tool box. Nice thing is they are usable for other things.

Chris