Trailer Too Short?

   / Trailer Too Short?
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#11  
I guess so. If a B21 was hanging off a 14' trailer then a L39 will definitely be a problem. Thanks for the input.
 
   / Trailer Too Short? #12  
One other thing to consider is being able to drop the how on the bed of the trailer. If there is any slop from side to side on any emplement you might have hanging off the rear of the trailer it can be a whiplash disaster. It can start with the smallest of motion and get bigger fast, especially if you are short coupled. In the long run I would get one that allows you to ground the complete tractor.
 
   / Trailer Too Short? #13  
Many people make the mistake of not buying a versatile enough trailer to handle the majority of their needs. If you buy the 12' trailer, you will most likely find yourself wanting to haul your tractor with a different attachment, such as a bush hog and you know you can't raise that high enough to clear the walls of the trailer. I would advise you to bite the bullet and pay the extra money to get at least a 16' trailer.
 
   / Trailer Too Short? #14  
I have a 18' trailer (16' with a 2' dove tail) and with the loader and bush hog on my 5030, I hang about 4' off of the back and the bucket is also almost 18" over the front. I'm going to have to do something different or I'll get a ticket. I was pulled over by a state trooper even though I had a red flag on the tail wheel of my bush hog. He gave me a warning and told me that I needed to do something different. He also told me that he'd do me a favor and not call the DOT to weigh my trailer and see if I was over my plate limit.

I have to say that he honestly did do me a favor. After thinking about it, I'm likely about 5000 pounds over my plate limit as well as about 6' too long for my trailer. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
 
   / Trailer Too Short? #15  
Same question, different tractor size. I already own a 5' x 10' trailer. I'm looking to buy something along the line of a Kubota B7500 or JD 4110 or NH TC23 class tractor, with FEL. Will it fit?
 
   / Trailer Too Short? #16  
I have a 5x10 H&H tilt trailer that I haul my 2210 and FEL on, usually with the landscape rake or rear blade. The FEL is blocked up to clear the pickup tailgate when turning corners. With the front of the tractor tight against the front of the trailer, the tongue weight is about perfect. Just watch the ROPS on low tree limbs (another story!). /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
   / Trailer Too Short? #17  
Dargo,
I've got the same size trailer, definitly on the short side for my 2120 with brush hog, but mine's rated for 10,000 lbs. so I'm ok on the weight. If you have the same rating, you should be ok shouldn't you? I'm assuming a 18' beavertaill would have the same weight rating.
 
   / Trailer Too Short? #18  
Let me pass on my "life experiences" with trailers. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Up until a few years back, I TRIED to get by hauling a 6500 LB tractor, along with the occasional implement, on a 16' "car trailer", rated at 10,000 GVW. The tractor barely fit WITHOUT anything hooked to it. When trailers are "rated" for a given GVW, that doesn't take into consideration a 1600 lb bush hog hanging 6' over the rear of the trailer /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Also, I had to run the tractor all the way to the very front of the trailer, loading about 3000 lbs on the bumper (actually a reciever hitch) of my 1/2 ton truck. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Not a pretty picture here..... On a number of occasions, I was read the riot act by local police. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Then the D.O.T. joined in on the party... /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

Fast forward to the day when I bought my new trailer/heavier truck! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Not only do you need a trailer big (long) enough to fit your tractor on, it needs to be long enough to be able to position the tractor so you wieght the rear of your tow vehicle in accordance with it's capacity. That usually means staying just forward slightly of centered over the trailer axle(s).

I now use a 25' gooseneck, behind a 3/4 ton truck. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif When loading, I try to get maybe 1500 lbs "tongue weight" The balance of the tractor/implement weight is carried on the trailers 2x7000 lb axles. The trailer is long enough so that with a 7' bush hog attached to the tractor, I'm still 2' forward of the back of the trailer. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif D.O.T. likes it! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I'd HIGHLY recommend getting a trailer MUCH bigger than you HAVE to have. It may set you back a few bucks more, but D.O.T. fines are costly. Even if it's NOT a commercial vehicle, you still need to comply with certain saftey regs. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

And to add to the raging storm... You need to make sure that your trailer will comply with any FUTURE laws/regs pertaining to hauling on public highways. In other words.... Go over-kill! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Trailer Too Short? #19  
Jim,

I'm in southern VT, was thinking of doing the same thing. After reading all these posts I called the DMV, they said the entire tractor had to be over the trailer. I have a BH & FEL on my JD 4110, it's almost 16ft tip to tail. I visited the local trailer dealer today he says some of the dump companies are now making a 14ft version but the one I checked out from www.MoritzInternational.com was almost $9.5k and it was still 2ft too short. Ouch.

Another option was an 18ft equipment hauler (9900 GWVR) for about $4k, or a 19ft car hauler (7000 GWVR) for $3k, or, a 16ft landscape trailer (7000 GWVR) for $2.2k. All were from Moritz or www.sure-trac.com and all these units were on the lot for me to kick the tires. They appear to be real nice. One of the better features is that they're powder coated - my old utility trailer that was painted looked good for about 2 weeks before the VT road salt made it look 10 years old. The car hauler had an electric/hydraulic tilt bed; it was sweet. They also had stake pockets along both sides so you could build sides and use it like a utility trailer if needed, you just don't get that dump convenience. I'm going to pull the trigger in the next week or so, leaning towards either the equipment trailer or car hauler (mainly because the resale market is stronger for them than for utility trailers).

-Norm
 
   / Trailer Too Short? #20  
Another consideration is that the bed of a dump trailer is designed for a loose load of bulk material - the weight evenly spead out over relatively light gauge metal on a supporting frame. The weight of the tractor is concentrated at four points. A car hauler or equipment trailer will usually have a wood or heavy guage metal plate deck.
We had a metal bed utility trailer years ago that was used to haul small tractors, the bed was badly bent down where the wheels sat.
Wm
 

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