Ductape
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Now go buy that new trailer !!!
Transport of Equipment in Dump Trailers
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We need to have a TractorByNet members "New England Get-Together" one of these days. Then I'll pay out on all the beers I owe!Ductape said:
Or is there already one and you guys failed to tell me? You are entirely correct about the revenue aspect and cops who either don't understand the rules or don't really care what the rules are... They have a quota to make. I try to go overboard with everything like this because my family and I don't have a very good history dealing with "the man"!
And as I've said before, if I am standing in front of a judge, I have already lost. Interesting your take on the law as applied up in "Live Free or Die" land... my eventual new home. That's also where the dealer is telling me "no-go" on hauling around my tractor w/FEL+BH in a dump trailer.
BH folded up and latched vertically, my tractor/FEL/BH is 21 feet long. I already hang 1 ft off the end of my 20-ft long equipment trailer with a red flag attached. While an 18-ft bumper-pull dump trailer would fit perfectly with the rear doors shut and give me almost exactly a 3-ft overhang, I'd really prefer a cheaper, more readily available 16-ft dump wherein I'd have to lose another 2-ft up front by removing or raising the FEL bucket out of the box and perhaps park it on an added "shelf" of sorts. With a 14-ft dump trailer, I would definitely have to lose the backhoe first... but again, this is for backup and unusual circumstances only.
Would I be legal with that 16-ft dump trailer? God only knows!!!
Dougster
Trust me... I've been trying.Ductape said:
Not made of money ya know! I will be up in your fine state later this week for more trailer shopping. Hopefully, I'll find something that fits my needs AND my budget! I've given up entirely on used. They are all totally beat to ____!
Dougster
LBrown59
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Why not just use a reg. equip. trailer instead of a dump?Dougster said:I keep hearing stories and rumors that there are specific DOT rules and/or restrictions regarding the transport of equipment... skid-loaders, tractors, etc... in dump trailers... but I can't seem to find them. Can anyone point me at those specific "dump trailer" rules? It sure would be nice to have an alternate means of moving my tractor and FEL... with or without BH attached... to and from jobs. But folks are telling me that this is pretty much forbidden now by some "new rules."
Dougster
That would make it too easy!LBrown59 said:
Seriously, I already own a 20-ft equipment trailer... and it works fine. But being a one-man show meant dropping off the tractor and having to go back for a second "sided" trailer for any job requiring off-site movement of materials.
Now that my 2006 tax refund allows the purchase of a dump trailer, my first thought was: Why not buy one big enough to move the tractor as well? But the longest lengths available in bumper pull are 18-ft... and, more commonly and less expensive, 16-ft. These may not be long enough for practical (and legal?) everyday use... but might be made to work in a pinch or for jobs not requiring the backhoe. I figure if I have a choice of a dump trailer that could be used for occasional backup... that's better than one that can't be used for backup at all.
There is actually a lot more to the story, but I won't write a book here. Suffice to say that if I could have completely freed up the equipment trailer for other purposes, it would have been a huge plus.
Dougster
Ductape
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Dougster..... without getting in too deep here, you might want to rethink moving up here in the future ! Afterall..... after the last election, New Hampshire is now considered the largest county in Massachusetts !!! I'm currently looking for land in northern Maine to eventually build a retirement home, but i fear "it" will even creep up there by then !!
Believe me, I know what you're saying. It is a very sad trend going on. Not supposed to get heavy into politics here, but it's pretty clear that normal working folks can no longer afford to live very well in Massachusetts. The only remaining bastion of social and tax sanity left in the Northeast is New Hampshire. But that strange irony: Massachusetts liberals being forced North themselves by their own tax & spend habits are now populating Southern New Hampshire... and bringing their crazy, flawed tax & spend habits with them.Ductape said:
Please rest assured that I am one of the good ones. A fiscal and social conservative all my life, I will not try to destroy your wonderful state. In fact, I will work as hard as I can to save it!
Dougster
workinallthetime
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ok heck fellas move to oklahoma and enjoy some of the southern hospitality, i watched a thing on tv the other day and it said we okies pay an average of 25% of out income to the tax man the rest of the nation is 33%.
plus the tractor work is great down here but you will miss all the snow so you will have to take that out of your business plan,lol.
my wife had a friend who was a RN and she would work in boston part of the year and live here, she made so much money because they pay so well up there but they have to because the cost of living is 2 -3 times what it is here.
have fun
plus the tractor work is great down here but you will miss all the snow so you will have to take that out of your business plan,lol.
my wife had a friend who was a RN and she would work in boston part of the year and live here, she made so much money because they pay so well up there but they have to because the cost of living is 2 -3 times what it is here.
have fun
Amen Brother Dan!workinallthetime said:
Do you know that the nurses at one Boston hospital just won a 23% pay raise over three years... and will be making an astounding $140,000 a year base pay by 2009??? Where do I sign up? Do I have to wear them funky scrubs??? During my engineering career (in which I never made $140,000 base pay), I did do some work in your fine state. I especially liked the low gasoline prices!
But you do get those dang nasty tornadoes and I'll bet it can get downright hot out there... 'specially with Al Gore and his global warming thang supposedly coming someday... right? Seems to me I better stick to Plan "A" and head North to where I can move some snow and make some money in the winter season!
Dougster
QRTRHRS
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The way things change and the interpretations, I could be wrong on lengths. I will tell you that the part about flagging over four feet sticking out is in the regs. It's late so I won't go dig up the part okay? I do see steel sticking out beyond the trailer on occasion. In fact, one day I saw this driver hauling rebar which was flexing up and down. Some of the other drivers in the area did question this driver who said that they haul it like that all the time.Ductape said:
Years ago, I regularly hauled steel beams out of Bethlehem, PA that stuck way out. I just clamped on my auxillary lamps and went with it as did many others. Within certain constraints, we had blanket overlength permits.
I am going to have to start chatting with the equipment haulers to see what their take is on this.