transporting concrete off road

[BeezFun]

The car was originally rated to hold 135,000 pounds, but even if is was undamaged, it couldn't hold that now, because it is being supported only by the earth it sits on.

Ratings on cars had to do mostly with bearing capacity of wheels and damage to rail infrastructure. I'm not suggesting you test it, but don't undersell the structural strength of what you have based on the rail capacity rating. You're probably correct, the earth at each end would limit how much it could support.

 

[BHD]

a samll dump trailer that could haul 2 or so yards would probly ge about as easy as any thing, dep0ending on turns and steep ness one may need to have a cover on the trailer,

this site has two diffrnet type of trailers,
Concrete & Masonry

 

[sdkubota]

FYI...1 cubic yard of concrete weighs approximately 4000 lbs.

 

[dstig1]

Ever heard of SpecMix? They set up a mixer right on site, and you mix it right where you use it. There are other brands like this, but I see them the most. Assuming you have water, you just need to get pallets of mix sacks up there, which can be done with a bobcat or whatever.

Just Another thought....

Pumper trucks are like $500-1k for a job, so not horrible....

 

[camshawn]

our concrete guy arranged a pump for 1/2 day, $250, saved 2 men on the crew, paid for the pump and we did not have to try and move the concrete trucks off the known solid ground to reach the far side. This also sped up the placing of the concrete.
Cam

 

[jbarker855]

Gentlemen-
Thanks for all the input and advice. I guess my main concern was making sure this was feasible in 1 way or another. With all the input, I am now totally convinced that this is do-able, and this alone has put my mind at ease. Thanks to all.
-Jay

 

[sdkubota]

Gentlemen-
Thanks for all the input and advice. I guess my main concern was making sure this was feasible in 1 way or another. With all the input, I am now totally convinced that this is do-able, and this alone has put my mind at ease. Thanks to all.
-Jay

Most contractors are very resourceful individuals.

 

[Renze]

You should hire a Czech concrete trucker. They'll bring it anywhere you want it

Tatra vydr

 

[yanmars]

Nice bridge. Keep us posted how it all works out.

 

[sparc]

Nice bridge. Keep us posted how it all works out.

Yes, very nice. That water looks to be running fairly fast. Is that normal volume or just Spring melt.

 

[Pops15]

I've used both and the buggy is the faster of the two. For a monolithic pour like you are wanting I would want to have two buggies going. The cost of the second one would be absorbed by the time charges. There is one caveat though, buggies suck on rough terrain. You can go faster than you can with a skid steer but they will also hang a ninety degree unexpectedly if they hit any bump just wrong. I'm talking a ninety that will throw you off the buggy if you are at speed. If the machine is still upright it will automatically stop and look back at you like the donkey you rode as a kid would do. Have the same snicker on its face too.

What Harv said!......except with a 40 yard pour I'd be inclined to use 3 buggies.

 

[sdkubota]

Ratings on cars had to do mostly with bearing capacity of wheels and damage to rail infrastructure. I'm not suggesting you test it, but don't undersell the structural strength of what you have based on the rail capacity rating. You're probably correct, the earth at each end would limit how much it could support.

Remember that rating if for a load equally distributed across the entire surface area of the car. I realize you are pumping it...good luck!

 

[TO_Bud]

Bridge is about 90 feet long, 8 feet wide. "Footings" are railroad ties on either shore that were put on the ground for it to lay on.

At only 8 feet wide I wouldn't want to be driving any concrete truck across it for 90 feet, whew. Pumpers, buggies, or dump trailer seem like the best ideas presented.

 

[jbarker855]

Yes, very nice. That water looks to be running fairly fast. Is that normal volume or just Spring melt.

That's the spring melt. Normally, I can safely take my little kids wading through it.

 

[sdkubota]

That's the spring melt. Normally, I can safely take my little kids wading through it.

Any trout?

 

[chim]

If you did go with a pump, what would you do with the 2 or so yards left in the hose?

 

[mvwicker]

If you did go with a pump, what would you do with the 2 or so yards left in the hose?

How about new footings for the bridge?

 

[RDrancher]

If you did go with a pump, what would you do with the 2 or so yards left in the hose?

Just use it in the slab. As long as there is water in the pump hopper you pump until the washout water gets to the end of the hose.

 

[charlz]

Just use it in the slab. As long as there is water in the pump hopper you pump until the washout water gets to the end of the hose.

I was wondering the same thing about concrete left in the hose. Thanks for the answer!

For the OP I might look at renting some concrete 'tub' trailers, maybe the concrete place does U-cart and can also provide the trailers. However, it doesn't sound like you have a lot of room to maneuver trucks, trailers etc. near the bridge so pumping it might be the most straight forward. Is there a place before the bridge where the concrete truck can turn around and back up to the bridge?

 

[Rod in Forfar]

I have thought of 2 ways to get the concrete back. One is to use power buggies (Quick ride-on concrete buggy and material mover - The Power Buggy). They have a capacity of about 3/4 yard, so this would mean about 50 trips across bridge. Bridge is about 1/8 mile from build site. Another would be to get a loader (small enough to fit over bridge) with a big bucket to move the concrete. I will be hiring a concrete guy to do this, but I just wanted to have this thought out before talking to them.
Any thoughts? Better ideas? Helicopter transport?
Thanks!
-Jay

Have you considered a 3 pt hitch dump box for your tractor? The 10 cubic foot size will carry 400 to 500 lb. without difficulty. The 30 cubic foot size would handle all your tractor can lift. It would be cheap, relatively quick, and wouldn't strain the geometry of your loader like an oversized bucket.

Just Google "3 pt hitch dump box" to locate a supplier.