Here's my situation. I can't get the one I was dropping today to fall /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I made two decisions on dropping a tree today that were such a comedy in errors it was pathetic. Actually I'm laughing at myself still. Put the weight on the throw line and on the third try got a good line up over the branch of a 8" x 60' pine. The throw line went over an adjacent trees dead limb and I saw an opportunity. That will feed the rope better on the pull back and I can surely just tension things a bit and break the dead limb off, right? Wrong!! Rope went up and over fine and I made a second ingenious decision to do a slip knot similiar to an improved clinch after passing on a knot that would have gotten me out of this every time. That was mistake # 2. Kept the thow line on the main line as a tag just in case the slip knot didn't want to free itself, if I need it to. That didn't work either as that good ole clinch did just what it was supposed to, locked down tight when I went to tension and break the adjacent dead branch off. I can tell you that 1 1/2" dead branch holds that whole tree off the ground with the tractor pulling the trunk away and 4' or better off the ground. Well I pulled it two directions 3 times and it's still a standin. May be for a good long while too. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif I was at the barely reasonable danger limits of tree and tractor and decided it looked just fine where it was. No sense in turning one calamity into another. So part of the mission is accomplished, it can't fall on the boat anymore. That's about all I accomplished today after 5:00 pm. Should have stayed on the indoor projects as they were going fine. The inside work was wood somebody else cut down, metal, and drywall finishing. I should stick to what I'm good at. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Roping trees obviously isn't my strong suit. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif