Tresspassers and Cable Gates.

[Anonymous Poster]

Law varies from state to state. In WI, it used to be that so long as you kept your feet wet, if you entered a stream legally, you could go up and down as far as you wanted. We just changed it - now they have to be below the normal high water line, but don't have to keep their feet wet. The key is, you have to legally enter the stream, which doesn't mean you can mosey across someones property to get there. Also means that, if the stream cuts back and forth 50 times in a 100 yards, you can't just cut across - must stay in the stream boundry.

Also just changed trespass laws - by law the presumption is that all land is considered private, and you are not allowed in. Landowners are no longer required to post to keep people out. If you are hunting and you don't know where you are, you must assume you are private lands and get out or get permission.

SHAME THAT, AS WELL ADVERTISED AS IT WAS, SOME PEOPLE DON'T GET THE IDEA.

Guess I don't understand - we were taught to ask first, ask every time ( or every year if the landowner said so ), to be sure you knew where you could and couldn't go and where you should or shouldn't be shooting, and to always say "thanks", especially w/ some wild game or a gift.

Been allowed into some nice places, even after others have wrecked it, just by respecting the owners rights.

How hard can it be...

 

[MossRoad]

Of course you could always plant a flash camera to attract their attention, then use a second non flash camera to get pictures of them stealing the flash camera. Then you can get tresspassing AND theft charges against them /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

 

[MDNY]

It bothers me that people know they shouldn't be there, they know they are trespassing and they still do it. I wonder if they would mind if people went into their house, ate their food, watched their t.v (etc. etc.) and left a big mess behind. I bet they wouldn't appreciate it.

I know we have some issues on the back of our property line. Unfortunately it is a seasonal only road and the party season is coming up. I heard this summer that some kids rolled their car into the neighbors driveway. They wer bookin down the road realized it dropped off and locked, rolled and crashed the car. Of course they had beer bottles everywhere. My wife commented she would have left them there and gone out anyway (have to agree with her, but of course I would call the police first)

Todays youth is tomorrows leaders, makes me sick and scared too.

 

[Anonymous Poster]

I have tried everything to keep them out. There is always someone that thinks they can go thru my 10 acres to reach the more than a mile of stream that runs thru my neighbor's property. They won't stop and ask him, as they know he does not allow the public on his farm. I have them in my front yard and I am not tolerant of them anymore. Small streams are private here and the law is on landowners side. In order to get to the water they have to trespass on my land to reach it then walk down the bank (dam path) until they reach the house then get in the stream and then claim they have the right to be there. I am sorry, but if you fish or hunt you should be respectful of others property or you give all who hunt and fish a blackeye.

 

[RanchMan]

<font color=blue>I am sorry, but if you fish or hunt you should be respectful of others property or you give all who hunt and fish a blackeye.</font color=blue>

I wholeheartedly agree.

 

[kerr]

Im sure there has been 1 er 2 bad apples since time began .Part of life I guess.But Im guessin that most problems are when property changes owners.ITS MINE,GET OUT!Not a good way ta make friends.Any kid with any manners at all is welcome ta fish or hunt my 600ft. of creek all they want as long as they treat it with respect.I can read fare,I see that most of ya got darn good reasons ta run off a knothead.This I dont have a problem with.But only letting people with money or power or everything you can buy In BASSPRO cat. on yer place sucks.Give that scruffy lookin kid a break,Maybe your place Is the only place he feels safe,sain or just plane ol enjoying nature in.Just maybe word will get around that you aint such a potlicker after all.And you wouldn't have soo much trouble.And I'll bet ya you will learn more history about yer place from a long time tresspasser.There are way more good people out there than the news wants us ta believe fer sure.Im not sayin land owners ow anybody anything but remember what kind a world we grew up in.Way differant for our kids,give em a break and quit yer belly achin.

 

[dmccarty]

Kerr,

Boy are you gonna get flammed. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Sorry but you are wrong. Flat out wrong.

Just because I bought the property does not DOES NOT give
somene the RIGHT to tresspass my land. crap all over the
property, leave used toilet paper all over the place, leave
Tshirts used to clean someone's butt, not once, not twice,
but three times on my land, nor do they have the right
to shoot the place up, leave behind beer cans, ammo
boxes, shells, and targets. Nor does my buying the land
give someone the RIGHT to tresspass, scare up my trees
with stands, and poach deer on my land.

Just because I bought the land does not mean someone
else has the RIGHT to tear the place up by running ATVs
in my ditches, over my survey markers, and all through
my property. If they want a place to ride, BUY some land.

And it ain't just one or two bad apples, let me count the
ways of the pieces of fecal matter that have been on my land.
1 - ATV rider. Just one thankfully.
2 - First target practice. At least one person. But maybe two.
3 - Second target practice. Could be the same person from 2.
4 - Poacher. Definately the same as 3.
5 - Crapper One to Three. Same person. He was very regular meat eater.
6 - Crapper Lately. One Different person from 5 but also a meat eater.
7 - Three different "walkers." Trash.
8 - A different walker.

Thats at least 9 different people over the last 12 months or so. Sorry
not just one or two bad apples.

So why should I give these people a break? Frankly I'm tired of picking
up other peoples trash. My property was wide open for more than 10
years and I'm still finding trash after owning the place for two years. I'm
always taking trash out but I always find more. Why should I give them
a break? So I can have more work to do? I am REALLY tired of cleaning up
after slobs. Much less picking up their fecal stained T shirts and toilet
paper.

Why should I give them a break? They sure as heck ain't giving me anything
that I WANT. They get what they want and I get crap. I'm tired of taking
THEIR CRAP.

Later...
Dan McCarty

 

[Inspector507]

And any person 'with any manners' would have come to my door and ASKED to fish or hunt on my property............the flamin' begins

 

[JoeR]

One time I let a guy and his son hunt on my property. I was having problems with wild boar tearing up my property, and he offered to hunt them. I told him that was the only thing he could take off my property. I left for the day, and returned 4 hours later to find this guy loading up two 90 pound doe. It was not doe season and he baited them. I was irate and he left without saying anything to me. Later that evening I found a fawn wondering on the property, and I swore never to let anyone trespass on my land.

About a month later, this guy stops at my property at 11AM on a Friday. I usually work and would not have been home. He arrived with other people and wanted to show them my property!! He was asked not to come back.


Joe R.

 

[RanchMan]

OK - I've edited this since I was told I was being too hard on Kerr. It's a lot less verbose, here are my basic points.

1. A guest is someone who you have given permission to use your property. A trespasser is committing a criminal act by using something you own without your permission.

2. There are plenty of folks out here that came by their property by working the tail off - their property is their reward for years of hard work. They deserve to share or not share as they see fit.

3. I feel no need nor desire to participate in a socialistic scheme to allow "poor criminals" access to property I bought with money I earned.

4. If somone desires to give <font color=blue>"that scruffy lookin kid"</font color=blue> a break and let him on their place - that's fine - just don't tell me that somehow I'm a bad person because I choose not to.

5. It was stated that "I" and "dmccarty" were the exeptions and that most people don't have problems. I disagree. Just look to this thread - There are LOTS of instances where folks have problems.