Turf vs Industrial Tires

   / Turf vs Industrial Tires #11  
Kelvin,

The TC21D has separate controls for mid and rear pto.

JimBinMI

We boys and our toys!
 
   / Turf vs Industrial Tires #12  
del, what you say about the tires mashing the grass down and not cutting that strip sure makes sense, and that was something I wondered about when I got rid of my Cub Cadet riding mower and started mowing with the B2710 and a rear discharge 5' Bush Hog finish mower. But the reality is that the tractor and 3-point mower cuts cleaner and smoother than the riding mower did. As for an explanation, I don't have one; maybe this finish mower sucks the grass back up better, maybe my R1 tires don't mash it down as much? I don't know; I just know what I've got sure does make me smile./w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Bird
 
   / Turf vs Industrial Tires
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#13  
Whew, lots of good stuff here...

There seems to be a variety of opinions regarding Turf vs Industrial tires. I'm not sure I've made up my mind yet.

Regarding the (implied) question about using a belly mower in and around the barn:

The width likly won't be an issue with a mid-mount mower. I won't actually take the tractor/loader into the stalls, but run it down the center aisle and pitch into the bucket. I have plenty of room outside for manuvering.

I generally prefer the manuverability a mid-mount provides, as long as handling and flexibility of the tractor are not compromised too much. I suppose that's the key question for me in this whole mower discussion.

Whether the mower "locks" in the up position, I don't know. I'd have to ask the dealer (who's coming out Monday night to give me a price of trade-in on my '55 Ford 860). Maybe somebody here knows also.

Thanks for all the comments and suggestions!
 
   / Turf vs Industrial Tires #14  
Bird...

Interesting!

I've encountered other things in life that work better than I expected and can't explain why. Like you said, if you're smiling that says it all!
 
   / Turf vs Industrial Tires #15  
Bird, I believe the blade tip speed is faster creating more of a vacuum to stand the grass up before it gets cut.


Rowski
 
   / Turf vs Industrial Tires #16  
Blades on most of the current name brand mowers have a strong uplift action that pulls the grass back up and then cuts it. My mower is just a Bush Hog 260 and it does a respectful job as a finish mower - for mowing pasture anyway. Unfortunately a finish mower would be of little use to me and would be short lived. Grass also has to pass under chain guards or fabric guards, so the uplift action and high blade tip speed combind to give a good cutting action. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
 
   / Turf vs Industrial Tires #17  
Kwright... hoping to not repeat a lot...

If you want to have a good tire with better traction and better puncture resistance than the turf tire, the R4 is a logical choice. You will likely want the better durability when mowing in rough areas, and for your loader chores.

If you mow in 2WD then damage to your lawn shouldn't be a problem unless the ground is soft/wet and you are making tight turns. I've heard that turf tires can slip, even on turf, mostly when you're using a rear-mounted mower and/or the ground is soft/wet, so 4WD might be necessary even when mowing. The more aggressive pattern of the rear R4 tires would likely solve that problem, if it were to exist with turf tires in your case. A mid-mounted mower would also balance the weight a little better and slippage probably wouldn’t be a problem.

Up until a few years ago the compact tractors didn't see R4 tires as an option... mostly the larger TLBs, skid-steers, and other construction equipment was the main application for the tires. And in those cases, traction, resistance to puncture, and durability were the main concern. While when your tires get bigger and the equipment gets heavier, you will see the R4 tires tear up most loose surfaces, on the smaller, lighter tractors with munch smaller tires, the R4s seem to be working out and becoming popular for the multi-use applications.

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   / Turf vs Industrial Tires #18  
Del, your hatred for R4's is well known. My question to you would be: why not use the R4's for mowing, with one giant exception, don't mow when the ground is mud. I see your posts about R4's and fiqure you must do alot of work in the mud. I always try to work my soil when the conditions are best to work it. That may be much easier to do in some climates then others. Here in CA. farmers get to work in the fields when the soil allows them to, not neccesarily when the time of year says plant it. We can pretty much count on no rain in June through October, perhaps where you are, you can't avoid the rain. No piece of industrial equipment out here would use R1's especially backhoes that frequently find themselves on a hard surface. R4's will outwear R1's on aspahlt, concrete, or even hard dirt but in muddy conditions, nothing comes close to the traction of R1's. Rat...
 
   / Turf vs Industrial Tires #19  
Paddock, you must me confused with someone else, my only post about hating R4's was the recent one where I also said hated R1's, I was being flip/w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif, just meaning in my usual way that I want the best of everything for all uses all of the time, which of course you can't have.

On rough ground (cut off shoots etc) I think the R4s will be a lot more durable then the R1s, and I don't know if the R1s have changed, but these R4s on the L35 have a huge footprint which is a plus. I get this big footprint with a pretty short tire as well. I think that is what also helps the BX it also has pretty wide short tires for it's size.

I do a lot of travel on grass roads to get firewood, various projects, it just looks nicer without the sod being spun up. A lot of it is under trees and the grass isn't very tough. I haven't taken the L35 the really gooey stuff, probably won't. I'm looking at a small excavator about 7000 lbs for our bog property. They come with a hoe about the same or a little stronger then the L35's which is plenty for my uses, and I can always rent a big one if need be.

I sure agree on working the ground when it's "right" I was trying to fix up one area that was a real mess, it was like fixing the frosting on a cake, I realized there wasn't much point when I slapped the loader bucket down a little fast and notice the ground 10 feet away wiggling! I have since began calling that kind of area "jello dirt"/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
 
   / Turf vs Industrial Tires #20  
Del, I certainly must have, I ask ask only for your forgiveness. It does make all the sense in the world to do the work when the soil permits, the mess you leave behind from dirt that is to wet can be worse then when you start. Thanks for setting me straight, Rat...
 

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