Turf vs R1 vs R4?

   / Turf vs R1 vs R4? #61  
Neophyte,
Kind of hard to tell from that picture, but those look like Goodyear Terra Trac's. I think they were called a high flotation tire. There used to be a guy on here that had them on a big simplicy, don't know if he is still on. I looked at a set for my Ingersoll. Wile they were a lot more aggressive then the turfs, they still did not have a deep enough tred for my muck.
 
   / Turf vs R1 vs R4? #62  
L3010-HST-KUBOTA-4WD-R4's great combo. I find the R4's to be the best tire to fit my needs. I have plowed snow,mowed lawn,played in mud and dirt,driven on highway,all with great admiration for the R4's. Another feature of the R4's is that they are in most cases 6ply rated tires,great for loader work.The only precaution I take,is when I mow I always remove the FEL to lessen the chance of lawn scuff. To sum it up ,R4's I feel are the best all around tires. <font color="orange"> </font>
 
   / Turf vs R1 vs R4? #63  
One economical option I don't see discussed here is adding chains. I have a little JD 4100 that I am using to build a lawn and do landscaping around my new house. It came with turfs and the fronts were worn (it was used when I bought it). The turfs would quickly slick-over in the wet clay (we had a lot of rain last summer). They totally sucked for pushing the loader or pulling a rake or blade. Surprisingly they worked fine in the winter for plowing snow.

Eventually I will probably sell the loader, blade, rake, etc and just use it for mowing, so I didn't want to spend the money to replace the turfs (and wheels) just to put them back again later.

Replacing the rears, even on this smaller tractor would have cost a a couple of hundred dollars each, plus I am pretty sure I would have also needed new rear wheels which would add hundreds more.

So instead, I put chains over the turfs for about $150.

Chains wouldn't work on the front of this tractor with the turfs due to lack of clearance to the steering knuckle.

I was resigned to springing for a new set of wheels so I could put R-1's on the front, but the cost of new wheels was outrageous.

Then, a smart tire dealer found some ags in a size to fit the exisiting wheels. I spent $50 each for some Titan Tru-Power (a wider, ag-looking tire) that were the same size as the front turfs and importantly, fit on the same wheels!

The combo works great in the sticky clay I have. I think the chains clear better than a tire would, and the wide spaces between the lugs in the Tru-Powers clear easily as well. Traction is good enough that I have used this ~3500 lb toy tractor to pull a much larger, R-4 equipped, 4wd Snorkel-Lift and a track-equipped Toro Dingo out of some wet spots they were stuck in.

Now, half of my lawn is in and I have been using it to mow. I take off the rear chains. Even with the tractor stripped down to about 2200 lbs (no loader, no 3-pt weight, just the mowing deck and operator), the lugged fronts do leave some marks here and there. Eventually I plan to put turfs back on the front.

If I decide to keep the loader, I think I will spring for an extra set of front rims so I can easily swap the fronts between turf and "real tractor" tires.

- Rick
 
   / Turf vs R1 vs R4? #64  
I was following this thread with great interest. I have been interested in improving my tire situation since the M. Chalkey days of touting the Michelin XM27 and this is the first time it has resurfaced on the forum (I think). Is there any new news?

Thanks, Ed
 
   / Turf vs R1 vs R4? #65  
Glennmac,what size of R1W'S do you recommend for a B2910? I have R4's now.You are right about ags(R1) having better traction .My last tractor ,L2650, had ags and I never had it stuck. With the R4s on the B2910 it will spin on wood litter,leaves,pine needles,etc. a lot more.If it did not have four wheel drive I would have it stuck alot.When is your report going to be out? Thanks.
 
   / Turf vs R1 vs R4? #66  
Glenn Mac, is that series of articles finished? I have experience with older 4wd's with little R1's on front. In wet ground it is impossible not to sink it! The extra weight of the loader really hurts it. It's an international 544? from the late 70's.

Here is a pic pulling out a pickup. The tractor was stuck as well but used the bucket to free itself.
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   / Turf vs R1 vs R4? #67  
Just bringing this to the top again, would love to see the rest of Glenmac's 4 part article!
 
   / Turf vs R1 vs R4? #68  
I was patiently waiting as well but at this point I'm beginning to wonder if Glennmac is OK??? I doubt that a fella with 1588 posts and then none for 5 months had given up TBN willingly. Does anyone know?

Ed
 
   / Turf vs R1 vs R4? #69  
I posted before and his dealer says he has been in for services and the ***** is mowed! So it sounds like he's ok! I tried phoning last night but just got the answering machine.


Ken
 
   / Turf vs R1 vs R4? #70  
I don't think Glennmac is coming back... I emailed him a long time ago and he said he would get back to me with the tire info but never did...
 

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