Varmit Rifle

   / Varmit Rifle #91  
Actually a Thompson machine gun with a bulk magazine really spits the lead so fast that you can mow them varmits down to size quick.

But in reality we use an up-close approach. A beat up 12 gauge double-barrel shotgun. It's also very economical.
 
   / Varmit Rifle #92  
"I haven't left, Just sitting back in shock and awe . I knew that this subject might generate a fair amount of traffic but I had no idea that it borders on religion for some. I guess I need to stir the pot some more. Ranchman set me to thinking that I should give some further ideas of what I want. Price is important and I expect I will spend $500 to $750 for a fair rifle. Of course I would like to spend as little as possible. Range is probably not as important as stopping power. years ago I was treed by a razorback while hiking in Arkansas. I don't think I can run that fast anymore, and personally don't want to find out . I would prefer to stand and fight. I am leaning toward a rifle that shoots a .357 or .44 round so that I could use the same ammo in a pistol. The lever action is another preference. (too many years growing up watching the Rifleman). I hope this gives some more focus to the thread. I am still flexible and willing to be talked into (or out of) anything."

This is totally different from your initial post. A 357 or 44 mag in my opinion is not enough for hogs. Neither round is going to "reach out and touch" anything and neither has sufficient stopping power for an enraged boar while shooting on the run. Carefully placed shots under 50 yrds, yeah, but quick shots while being charged or out beyond 100 yrds, not likely you can place them that well. Since you do not know your requirments, I don't either, good luck.
Those Marlin short barrel cowboy type lever guns are really nice rifles for short range uses in brush or as a camp rifle or while shooting off a horse, so many guns, so little time. J
 
   / Varmit Rifle #93  
Those short Marlins are also nice for shooting from a tree that you have been hanging from for the last ten hours frezzing your butt off /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Now what kind of piglets are you chaseing that a 44 is not enough for ? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif No more than 100 yards for sure and not at all my idea of a varmit gun. There has been more than 1 elephant taken with a 44. I have yet to hunt a pig at more than 100 yards. Longer than that wheres the challenge ?? Mano to Pig ! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Dave
 
   / Varmit Rifle #94  
(too many years growing up watching the Rifleman).

Trescrows,

The Henry Golden Boy 44 mag will make you feel like Chuck Conners.

http://www.henryrepeating.com/

I have the 22 Mag Golden boy. My economical Ground Hog feeder.
 
   / Varmit Rifle #95  
Short bullets = short wound channel. I prefer long bullets, for big hogs nothing better than a 6.5 mm 160 grain bullet. W. D. M. Bell didn't like them for elephants, said they would bend and go off track. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
   / Varmit Rifle #96  
Thats a interesting theory. In general its probably true. I use such hot loads in the 44 with solids I dont have any trouble going straight through unless I hit bone. Then bullet selection is critical Vs caliber. Over all my favorite is still my .270 weatherby mag handloaded with 165 grain Noslers. It will go straight through any thing but a bear shoulder. The 44 is certaily a limited use tool. One I really like but I would have traded for my Weatherby several times this deer season. The 44 lacks the MOA accuracy at 100 ++ Yards that the others have. Every big buck I saw this year was 125 and peeking in between the cedars. Not a wise shot choice with a 44 /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif Dave
 
   / Varmit Rifle #97  
LSmith -

Did you ever make a decision?
 
   / Varmit Rifle
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#98  
RanchMan,

I haven't made up my mind completely, but the 1894SS I shot seemed like a good start. I know that it will suffer on the range issue, but stopping power, lever action, and carry size have kinda won out. I figure that I will end up with a bolt action long rifle later on that I can keep in the house and use when the opportunity arises. From all the good advice I know that one gun is not going to do it all. Just like a collection of good tools I now plan to add guns as my needs and budget permit. As I told you in the PM I already own a 12ga and a .22 as well as several small caliber handguns. Unless something just really jumps out at me in the next few days I will probably go with the 1894SS.

Thanks again for all the advice.

Lane Smith
 
   / Varmit Rifle #99  
"and a .22 as well "

The universal 22 is is Rugers 1022 auto. I have a bunches of 22's, my favorite round. I still have my Remington bolt passed down to me and a Marlin, a Winchester lever gun and another Winchester in 22 mag. The 22 Mag round has made a comeback in recent years. There is a new round, the Hornady 17RFM. It is a really cool round that is offered in an increasing number of rifles and even pistols. J
 
   / Varmit Rifle #100  
One of the neatest .22 semi auto's is a french make, Geviot I believe, that fires from an open bolt position. They sometimes go fully auto. Had one when I was a kid but foolishly took it back and came home with a Winchester model 66 semi auto.

Egon
 

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