VW Clean diesels.... how did they get them so clean?

[IslandTractor]

"Spew" "admitted" and "engulfed" identify you as an EPA sympathizer and tree hugger. Those on the left coast do have a differing viewpoint, to which you are certainly entitled. I am so horrified that my Beetle gets better mileage and runs better in spite of the noxious efforts of the EPA. Goes further on a gallon than the EPA would prefer. I applaud VW on the results if not the methods. The "scandal" would simply be hilarious except for the financial damage to VW and their stockholders, the only party in fact harmed. I have not seen the detailed math, but I strongly suspect that the total pollution left behind for a year's driving in one of those scandalous VW diesels is LESS (because of the fewer gallons burned) than if they had been compliant with the most out of control bureacuracy in government next to the IRS, namely the EPA.

When you finish ranting about the EPA, don't cry too hard for VW stockholders. Read up on who owns VW stock. It is not to be found in the portfolios of elderly widows. Basically two families own more than 50% and the local German government owns a good proportion of the rest. If I remember correctly, only about 10% of the stock is actually in play in the markets.

 

[JWR]

When you finish ranting about the EPA, don't cry too hard for VW stockholders. Read up on who owns VW stock. It is not to be found in the portfolios of elderly widows. Basically two families own more than 50% and the local German government owns a good proportion of the rest. If I remember correctly, only about 10% of the stock is actually in play in the markets.

You are correct. I'd forgotten that part. I do not ever finish ranting about the EPA, I only pause.

 

[ultrarunner]

The other side is the USA Franchise Dealers and their employees...

To say it has been rough recently would be an understatement.

 

[3930dave]

You are correct. I'd forgotten that part. I do not ever finish ranting about the EPA, I only pause.

Honesty and a sense of humour..... the internet needs more of your type. :thumbsup:

Until IC engines are gone, and no factories are left north of Mexico, I expect the EPA to continue in its present mode.

Tesla's NOx Problem: Model X Delay Explained? - Daily Kanban

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

The other side is the USA Franchise Dealers and their employees...

To say it has been rough recently would be an understatement.

Someone I know lives with an employee of the local VW dealership. The situation is definitely fluid, so this may be out of date, but as of a couple of weeks ago the only thing they could sell out of Canadian inventory were Passats and Beetles. Many people don't empathize with salespeople, but imagine trying to cover your monthly bills only selling those models !

Ending up between a rock and a hard place due to the decisions (or lack thereof) made by your "leaders", who then get to fly away on golden parachutes....... I can relate.

I'll stand up and take my lumps when I screw up, but personally getting hammered severely for bad choices made by other people is one of my least favourite situations to be in.

Rgds, D.

 

[Coyote machine]

It's called life. It's a B, then you die! No escape for anyone.....

 

[IslandTractor]

You are correct. I'd forgotten that part. I do not ever finish ranting about the EPA, I only pause.

I understand. I feel the same way about Cheney.

 

[ultrarunner]

Honesty and a sense of humour..... the internet needs more of your type. :thumbsup:

Until IC engines are gone, and no factories are left north of Mexico, I expect the EPA to continue in its present mode.

Tesla's NOx Problem: Model X Delay Explained? - Daily Kanban

Rgds, D.

Compliance is no easy matter in California... I've very familiar with the plant and spent an entire day there in 2001 watching the birth of Mom's Corolla.

The Bay Area Air Quality Management District governs all... from heating your home, heating your water to Hospital Emergency Generators and Steam Boilers...

 

[ultrarunner]

Honesty and a sense of humour..... the internet needs more of your type. :thumbsup:

Until IC engines are gone, and no factories are left north of Mexico, I expect the EPA to continue in its present mode.

Tesla's NOx Problem: Model X Delay Explained? - Daily Kanban

Rgds, D.

Compliance is no easy matter in California... I've very familiar with the plant and spent an entire day there in 2001 watching the birth of Mom's Corolla.

The Bay Area Air Quality Management District governs all... from heating your home, heating your water to Hospital Emergency Generators and Steam Boilers...

 

[ruffdog]

VW CHOSE to abide to the rules they agreed to. It is NOT the EPA's fault that VW chose to cheat. I do not feel sorry that they got caught. With the amount of vehicles on the road these days, I enjoy the cleaner air that the EPA tries to achieve. I would not like to breath what Beijing residents do 24/7.