VW To Resurrect the IH Scout as an Electric Vehicle.

[paulsharvey]

If we want to attack posser 'life style' people, who drive a jeep/scout/bronco, for being fake; we better watch out. Lot of folks have a tractor that aren't row cropping


Live and let live; you want a true rock climber, buy it, you want to run to the grocery store in a JD 8R, run to the store. you want to ride a bike, or drive an EV,; You do you

 

[Hay Dude]

Every 100 posts? Yours is # 74.

He has troubles sometimes, but we are always here to help him!

 

[Hay Dude]

If we want to attack posser 'life style' people, who drive a jeep/scout/bronco, for being fake; we better watch out. Lot of folks have a tractor that aren't row cropping

Like who?

 

[Jstpssng]

Oops. Wrong thread. But it's no different from the long one:

"You obviously haven’t spent much time stuck in traffic behind disabled cars. BTW “running out of juice in the Lincoln Tunnel” is just one example of thousands of traffic jam spots where an EV could run out of juice, and block traffic for a long time."


Sound familiar?

The difference between this and the other, longer one is that I read this one. I avoid the other out of respect for the OP, who already had #1 shut down.

 

[Jstpssng]

How do all these threads end up like this? IH Scouts are cool. I am not in the market, but I like the idea of bringing them back. I dont want an EV, but I don't feel a need to attack them. I would prefer if this Scout was offered with a pretty basic, low trim, straight 6 cylinder, and maybe a 4 cylinder turbo diesel, and sure, offer an EV. Doesn't matter to me if it's soccer moms, or rock climbers buying them, it's their money.

Because people are generally intolerant of those who don't think just like they do. I wouldn't mind having one like the original AWD Scout.

 

[Hay Dude]

Because people are generally intolerant of those who don't think just like they do. I wouldn't mind having one like the original AWD Scout.

You mean like w*ke people? lol

 

[California]

Because people are generally intolerant of those who don't think just like they do.

But we don't know anybody like that, do we?

 

[paulsharvey]

Such as who?

Lots of us. Heck wife drives a RT Charger, and she doesn't drag race; lots of F250s/F350s have never pulled more than a barbie jeep or 2 bags of play sand.

My personal truck, let's face it, lives in 2WD, and sees 4WD maybe 6 times per year; and is empty 95% of the time. The other 5%, it might be pulling a trailer, or have a jon boat in the bed, or haul quikcrete. I've pulled a compact TLB (something like the Kub L37 size) with a dodge durango or a Toyota Highlander.

I dont have to like your choices, but I also don't need to have an opinion on them either.

I dont want an EV, But I do think they might be helping push regular vehicles to innovate.

 

[Jstpssng]

I dont want an EV, But I do think they might be helping push regular vehicles to innovate

They also might work for a lot of people who are just looking for transportation.

 

[DarkBlack]

Nothing says “save the planet “ , quite like an expensive 6,000 lb battery vehicle, built with no concerns to aerodynamics…just ready to tear up the wilderness.
I bet the more they sell, they healthier our planet.

 

[Hay Dude]

Lots of us. Heck wife drives a RT Charger, and she doesn't drag race; lots of F250s/F350s have never pulled more than a barbie jeep or 2 bags of play sand.

My personal truck, let's face it, lives in 2WD, and sees 4WD maybe 6 times per year; and is empty 95% of the time. The other 5%, it might be pulling a trailer, or have a jon boat in the bed, or haul quikcrete. I've pulled a compact TLB (something like the Kub L37 size) with a dodge durango or a Toyota Highlander.

I dont have to like your choices, but I also don't need to have an opinion on them either.

No, of course you don’t, but if offering up opinions on this website were not allowed or “needed”, as you say, there’d be nothing here to read. 3/4 of what is written here is opinion.

I dont want an EV, But I do think they might be helping push regular vehicles to innovate.

Are you saying I (or another member) don’t like EV’s? If me, that’s misconception. I do. Would love to have an RAM EV 5500 and have said so numerous times.

I would agree a little that it helps on innovation, but if ICE (regular) vehicles are going to be outlawed out of existence, is there a need to “push regular vehicles to innovate“ relevant anymore?

 

[paulsharvey]

My Uncle in Law used to do hot rods, (looked good, but pretty sketchy work...), and resell them down in Daytona. Anyways, he's at a car show, and sees one he sold like 2 weeks before, and the guy who bought it is bragging to 2 girls about how He built it. That pissed UiL off. I tried to tell him, that guy bought the right to tell his lies; that's what he bought, not the car.

 

[paulsharvey]

No, of course you don’t, but if offering up opinions on this website were not allowed or “needed”, as you say, there’d be nothing here to read. 3/4 of what is written here is opinion.



Are you saying I don’t like EV’s? Thats a misconception. I do. Would love to have an EV 5500.

Just to be clear, I wasn't throwing any of this at you, or anyone. Last night, I saw a post about a new IH scout, thought it was cool, didn't care for EV part... come back this afternoon, and see the whole thing has degenerated into a crap throwing contest.

 

[DarkBlack]

Being a Volkswagen battery car, can we say it probably won’t really be a Scout, in anything more than a name?

 

[paulsharvey]

So, if you want to true bad azz IH scout; a diesel engine generator, some battery back ups, and 4 independent electric drive motors, all on a fully independent suspension, independent drive, and infinite speed control, would be a heck of an off road vehicle.

The EV thing Could be used to break some limiting traditions in design, like driveshafts, transfer cases, ground clearance issues, gearing issues, ect.

Wiring to drive motors doesn't have to be exposed like drive shafts. You could theoretically be able to shift wheels (and drive motors) in or out to suit trail/road conditions. You horse power requirements wouldnt need to be 600hp, if you had 80-120 hp of cruise, with the ability to surge 1200 hp for a few seconds when you really need it. You could easily hook your central tire pressure regulator system into the main electric system.

 

[ultrarunner]

Being a Volkswagen battery car, can we say it probably won’t really be a Scout, in anything more than a name?

VW could reintroduce the Type 141 Safari otherwise known as the thing...

 

[California]

Being a Volkswagen battery car, can we say it probably won’t really be a Scout, in anything more than a name?

Correct.

Closest VW could claim is 'inspired by'. Scouts were as primitive as VW bugs. (And nearly as slow). They were essentially IH sheet metal over a Jeep chassis.

 

[DarkBlack]

VW could reintroduce the Type 141 Safari otherwise known as the thing...

Be pretty neat to have one of those ugly things now

 

[Hay Dude]

Electric cars? That could never work.

What if you forgot to charge it before going some place?

You’re wildly over estimating the intelligence of the typical car owner.
Just because someone drives an EV doesn’t mean they’re a genius like Elon Musk.

 

[Jstpssng]

Correct.

Closest VW could claim is 'inspired by'. Scouts were as primitive as VW bugs. (And nearly as slow). They were essentially IH sheet metal over a Jeep chassis.

Despite that Because of that, they each were pretty versatile vehicles in their own way. I'm sure that I'm not the only one who did some good off-roading in a Beetle, although in my case it was as a passenger.

Alcohol mandatory.