Water For Fuel??????????

[buickanddeere]

I used to commission steam turbines for living. I don't remember single one with inlet steam temperature higher than 550C/1020F due to issues with Hydrogen. Hydrogen can build up even in domestic water heater.

1020F is also the temperature where all but the most expensive and exotic of metals are loosing their tensile strength.

 

[Rock knocker]

I used to commission steam turbines for living. I don't remember single one with inlet steam temperature higher than 550C/1020F due to issues with Hydrogen. Hydrogen can build up even in domestic water heater.

You're picking and choosing here. First was the production of hydrogen for power, which needs the almost complete disassociation of water to be viable. Next you bring up the ionization of water at room temperature, which is a totally different thing. Finally you bring up the accumulation of hydrogen in hot water tanks which is almost entirely due to corrosion and other chemical reactions in the water supply system, which is distinctly different than your first two examples.

You don't need electrolysis to break up water into H2 and O. You can use heat. Water dissociate to its components above 550C/1020F. Catalyst could bring the temperature down though. Plants do it at ambient temperature.

I am unaware of plants breaking up water during photosynthesis. I think you are thinking of carbon dioxide. That's not water

 

[Redneck in training]

I am unaware of plants breaking up water during photosynthesis. I think you are thinking of carbon dioxide. That's not water

In fact plants use carbon dioxide and water. Plants break water to Hydrogen and Oxygen to make organic matter and release Oxygen. Carbon comes from CO2.

 

[Rock knocker]

You're right. But regardless, these are complicated reactions having nothing to do with the formulation of fuel hydrogen

 

[buickanddeere]

In fact plants use carbon dioxide and water. Plants break water to Hydrogen and Oxygen to make organic matter and release Oxygen. Carbon comes from CO2.

Plants do precious little splitting of H20 into hydrogen and oxygen. They concentrate on splitting CO2 into carbon and O2.

 

[buickanddeere]

Actually no. Deuterium has properties helpful in reactors, but is not radioactive nor used in bombs

A moderator and heat transport system that circulates water made from Deuterium raises neutron efficiency. This will allow the use of natural non enrich uranium ore with just 0.7% U-235. Being a slow breeder the U-238 will capture the slowed, moderated neutrons and transmutes into P-239 which makes good reactor fuel . Thorium 232 can be loaded into the fuel and will absorb a neutron and become U-233 which is also a very good reactor fuel.
As for light water reactors, there isn't much of a choice beyond uranium enriched to approx 5% for civilian power plants. To extend fuel load life and to provide lots of positive K to restart after a SCRAM even with lots of Xenon in the core. Military reactors are loaded with approx 90% U-235. Lots of adjuster rods and boron with that fuel load.

 

[Rock knocker]

Dr Redneck specializes in Bad Science

 

[Redneck in training]

Plants do precious little splitting of H20 into hydrogen and oxygen. They concentrate on splitting CO2 into carbon and O2.

Then the hydrogen, that is major component of biomass, comes from?

 

[Rock knocker]

Photosynthesis: An Overview of Photosynthesis

 

[Copperhead]

Copper do you recall an article that I believe was also in PM in the eighties about a car (Fiero) that Smoky Yunick built that had a "hot burn" technology? I recall him delivering his findings to GM. He was a firery kind of guy who would not stand for any corporate b.s. Because of who he was and what GM was, they soon parted ways and the engineering for a super efficient burn tech died with him. He did it with what was the 2.4 cylinder engine in the Fiero. His first obstacle was with detonation as he attempted to increase hotter and hotter temperatures for fuel burning. He over came that with valve timing devloping a camshaft with the unheard of "0*" overlap. The car produced 230hp with initial figures of close to 50 mpg as I remember.

No, don't remember that one. But I have taken a lot of what Smokey has proven to heart and applied it to some of my engines. Case in point, my Detroit 12.7L Series 60. I put on a ported, polished, ceramic coated exhaust manifold, a larger non waste gate Borg Warner turbo and put a turbo blanket on that, then heat wrapped about 2 feet of the flange pipe that comes off the turbo. Has significantly lowered EGT temps and I get much better air flow thru the engine. Some pretty nice pulling power with an increase in mpg numbers.