welding

[thingy]

Yeah,,to many commas,I think the thing was a few words,land,whip and pause,etc,,,well,,well thingy

 

[turbo36]

you are a pretty good welder,,[just looked at two,,up 7018 and overhead 6011 believe it was],,,,can't do any better up than that with 7018,,,,the overhead,,,to much gap,,and or not enough land,,etc,,,,you got to experiment with these gaps and such,,,,I always used about 1/16 gap and 1/16 land,,thats in inches,,,,cause I was a down hill welder,,down hill you don't gap it very wide,,you butt that rod up against bevel and push it in,[rod tip is actually touching steel,,or there abouts],,,what I'm saying to you is,,,vary your gap,,,experiment,,,,vary your land,,experiment,,,once you put root in,,you are done on backside,,its got to be 100 percent,,,if you take plates down and grind off root stick through,[penatration],,than you shouldn't have to grind off much more than flush to get to plain shiny metal,,if you can't do that,,than you need to change your set up,,,whip and pause will leave you with voids in root sometimes,,not acceptable to code,,,,thingy

You really do know your welding, this is exactly how it works and most folks wouldn't have a clue what you are talking about. Back when I went to college for welding part of the requirements for graduation was to get certified in a number of processes and positions. The two hardest for me were the root pass on pipe and all position gas welding of aircraft frames. Yes, we did weld aluminum Coors cans for fun!

 

[thingy]

Turbo,thanks for the vote of confidance,,,yeah know a little,,but there is alot I don't know to,,,some processes I ain't had much to do with,,than the newer stuff is sometimes beyond me,,,we can always learn though.
Some people who have never welded their whole live,,see a show on tv or something and say to themselfs,,I can do that,,, but welding ain't like growing flowers,,,you got to know some basics to get started or you'll just spin your tires and get mad and quit,,,,I believe anybody who wants to learn oughta take a class at a votech school or college,to get the basics,,,if they have someone who could show them things that might work to,,,thats why I say to a beginner,,get a stick welder,,,no moving parts,gages,,just hotter or colder,,keep it simple,,its hard enough to learn welding without trying to figure out how to adjust a mig machine and get everything right,,and its easy to blame the machine,,,stick,,well,,if you got just a couple things right,,than the rest is yours. thingy

 

[montejw]

I should probably not speak for sberry, but he quoted arc welding rods on his picture names, so I would expect they were GMAW (Arc) welded.

6011 would conventianally be AC
7018 probably DC but could go either way.

In his first post me thinks the top 2, and the bottom pictures are wire.

Monte

 

[Egon]

A site that if you scroll down there may be some drawings that have some of Thingy's terms shown.

Aussie Weld Introduction to Arc Welding - Basic Principles of Welding - Types of Welds

 

[gemini5362]

Since I was the one that posted the comments about speaking english. I have found it very interesting the posts people have made to describe the terms thingy used and the really educational web sites. I actually made the comment as a joke about thingys vast knowledge of the subject while some of us do not have a clue what he is talking about some times. I am now glad that I made that joke I have learned a lot from the posts explaining things.

 

[thingy]

Gemini,,I took no offence,,if you dish it out like me,you gotta be able to take it a little too,,,,yeah,welding terms,,they work better with a picture,[besides all that,,I'm a hillbilly,we really don't speak english,or french,or....],thingy

 

[AlanB]

In his first post me thinks the top 2, and the bottom pictures are wire.

Monte

I must first apologize, I wrote GMAW, and that is incorrect, it would be SMAW, (ARC) welding, not sure where my mind wandered off to but it must have wanted a little time alone

Monte, as to saying it is wire welding (which would be GMAW or more commonly called MIG) why do you say that? Or what makes you believe those are wire welds?

I guess the sberry is the one that needs to really answer the question though.

 

[Nickahawk]

I agree with everything thats been said. Welding can be very complicated and gets more confusing the more you know. I have a Lincoln Squarewave 175 pro ac/dc stick and tig, Millermatic 250 GMAW wire w/shielding gas, a Miller Bobcat 225 NT welder - generator set w/Miller S-32P wire feeder attachment w/shielding, and a Lincoln Pro-Cut 55 plasma cutter. I use the Miller 250 more than anything unless I need to "field weld". Botton line...it comes down to experience, needs, cost, and time. For a first welder I would put as many $ into it as possible. A ac/dc stick would be a good start. Once you learn to stick weld it makes wire feed a lot of fun and easier to learn.
Good luck in your search.
Nick

 

[bx23barry]

Remind me never to ask a welding question here