Well again! What else can it be? FRUSTRATED!

   / Well again! What else can it be? FRUSTRATED!
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#171  
caseing is in the ground. Not sure how deep it is yet as they were gone before I could get off work. They will be back today to finish up.
 
   / Well again! What else can it be? FRUSTRATED! #172  
Sounds like a good price. Around here it is $1500 for 50 feet and $10 a foot after. Only includes the well no piping. I got luck my well makes 12gpm at 46 feet
 
   / Well again! What else can it be? FRUSTRATED! #173  
That's an excellent price for a well considering the last quote I got here was $25 PER FOOT! (Of course that is turn key)
 
   / Well again! What else can it be? FRUSTRATED! #174  
I pay about $100/month for city water (and sewer). $100/mo for 12 months = $1200 per year x 26 years = $31,200. If a good well system were installed by a a professional for an average cost of $8-12,000 and then maintained every few years (check air in tank, replace pressure switch, etc) you could come out way ahead. Wells are not that much trouble to maintain, problem is that nobody ever checks them until they're broke.

Like a lot of things, you try and try to fix or rebuild, but sometimes the only real answer is to just get new. I would have done the same things you've done and probably strung it out just as long.
I fought wells and pumps for years, but when the county ran the water line past the property and asked me where I wanted my meter, I told them that I was so glad to see the water line, they could put the meter any darned place they wanted. Over the past 26 years I've spent a lot of money on water bills, but my water has never run out, I haven't had any pumps go bad and I haven't been up all night fighting a pump problem so everyone would be able to take a shower the next morning.

Good luck on your new well
 
   / Well again! What else can it be? FRUSTRATED! #175  
We have lived in our house 15 years. We have a shallow bored well. I think it is 60 feet deep. It has enough water for the horses and household use but not enough to water the lawn for more than an hour or so. The pump man has been out once to install a new tank which is on top of the water line from the pump. They used their crane thing to lift the ball of wax up enough to install.

I need to install a low pressure safety device as my wife has a bad habit of walking away from the water trough while filling and running the pump dry.

My power bill averages a little over 1,000 KWH per month for an all electric house with no propane or natural gas. 2,500 SF conditioned. 3 ton Geothermal heat pump with 3 slinky ground loops. Electrical consumption is higher than I would like but I would have to turn off 3 computers and replace the old CRT TV to reduce that power usage. Fluorescent lights in almost every fixture. No clothes line. I guess what I am arguing is that for me my pump has not been very expensive to run or maintain. My neighbors on either side have shallow bored wells. One guy further down has a drilled well. I am not sure about the other 4 houses on my street. I have not heard them say anything about pump maintenance but a few have replaced AC components. Maybe it is a regional thing where lighting strikes or other factors affect the well.

I did have to put in a calcite filter to adjust the PH of the water. To acidic and eating my copper pipes.

At the place we rented before we had a drilled deep well with either a 500 gallon or 1,000 gallon holding tank in the pump house. We would run that pump 24 hours a day for months on end watering stuff. Well maybe not days on end but the sprinkler could run for a week or more nonstop. All I did on that pump was replace the pipe nipple to the pressure switch when replacing the pressure switch. The nipple had clogged up as someone else had mentioned.

I would love to have someone pump the mud out of the bottom of my well. I imagine it has a fair bit after 15 years. We used to have 3-4 hours of sprinkler time but as mentioned it only has an hour or so now.
 
   / Well again! What else can it be? FRUSTRATED! #176  
I pay about $100/month for city water (and sewer). $100/mo for 12 months = $1200 per year x 26 years = $31,200. If a good well system were installed by a a professional for an average cost of $8-12,000 and then maintained every few years (check air in tank, replace pressure switch, etc) you could come out way ahead. Wells are not that much trouble to maintain, problem is that nobody ever checks them until they're broke.

Not wanting to get into a big argument with you over this cause I don't have a dog in this fight, but your monthly bill includes sewer too, which doesn't figure into a well cost. Then you'd have to figure in electricity usage and the cost of normal upkeep items like the pressure switch, etc, plus even your time when doing normal maintenance and such. Tanks go bad, pumps wear out, then you've got replacement costs, but the labor to install.
Drilled wells in this area also have very hard water, which would involve a water softener, the salt and an expected replacement at least twice during that period. What we call the 'city' water comes from very deep drilled wells and does not require a softener.
I do agree that overall, having your own well would be cheaper, just not near what your computed difference would be, if you figured in just the water costs, plus the cost of 'maintenance' items. Then, the peace of mind of not having issues like this are worth something, especially if you take into context that during that time I was in the military and away from home for extended periods, so any fixes to a well problem would have had to be done by a hired professional, which would have driven well costs up even more. Peace of mind and not having to expend my time are also worth something. Just a question of values I know, but not the bottom line savings you quoted.

Actually, in my case, with my water bills, the total 26 year costs would run about $10,920 and I haven't had any maintenance costs.
 
   / Well again! What else can it be? FRUSTRATED! #177  
You're right, I did inclulde (and mention) sewer, but I have no way to separate them. In the old days sewer was pretty cheap, but since we've been all forced to go aerobic it's not so cheap anymore. And you have to have it inspected.

Electricity to run a pump probably about $8-10/mo. If you've got real hard water or some other type of bad water then it is probably best to just let the city handle it.

Not wanting to get into a big argument with you over this cause I don't have a dog in this fight, but your monthly bill includes sewer too, which doesn't figure into a well cost. Then you'd have to figure in electricity usage and the cost of normal upkeep items like the pressure switch, etc, plus even your time when doing normal maintenance and such. Tanks go bad, pumps wear out, then you've got replacement costs, but the labor to install.
Drilled wells in this area also have very hard water, which would involve a water softener, the salt and an expected replacement at least twice during that period. What we call the 'city' water comes from very deep drilled wells and does not require a softener.
I do agree that overall, having your own well would be cheaper, just not near what your computed difference would be, if you figured in just the water costs, plus the cost of 'maintenance' items. Then, the peace of mind of not having issues like this are worth something, especially if you take into context that during that time I was in the military and away from home for extended periods, so any fixes to a well problem would have had to be done by a hired professional, which would have driven well costs up even more. Peace of mind and not having to expend my time are also worth something. Just a question of values I know, but not the bottom line savings you quoted.

Actually, in my case, with my water bills, the total 26 year costs would run about $10,920 and I haven't had any maintenance costs.
 
   / Well again! What else can it be? FRUSTRATED! #178  
You're right, I did inclulde (and mention) sewer, but I have no way to separate them. In the old days sewer was pretty cheap, but since we've been all forced to go aerobic it's not so cheap anymore. And you have to have it inspected.

Electricity to run a pump probably about $8-10/mo. If you've got real hard water or some other type of bad water then it is probably best to just let the city handle it.

Just a reminder...this was posted in the "rural living" forum. I can't even fire HughesNet or DishNetwork in favor of a fiberoptic service! (If I could I would). So for many of us municipal sewer/water is not an option and most likely never will be. If it was, I'd certainly look at it. Btw on the east coast it is typical to have water but still private septic. I think our NY house was about $75/mo just for water.
 
   / Well again! What else can it be? FRUSTRATED!
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#179  
340' 9gpm. Well man says it is a good well. Still wont have it connected to the house until Monday. Final cost will be around $4500. Was hoping to get a Harley this year but think that is gonna have to wait. Just glad this is almost over!!!

Wade
 
   / Well again! What else can it be? FRUSTRATED! #180  
$4,500 doesn't sound too bad, you've probably burned about 10k worth of "brownie points" with the boss! Glad its all coming together for you.
 

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